how does Kill Bill sword rack stand up?

I checked on another board who are familiar with such things. They said this fellow was hovering just out of camera range, holding it up with his power beam! :eek:

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Ripper,,,,thanks for the link,,,,,that photo was interesting, it gave me an idea how I might be able to make my own,,,,

,,,,But I still kinda want to know if in the movie how the real sword rack is held up?
 
peter nap said:
I checked on another board who are familiar with such things....
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THIS has to be a line that can be used as an unimpeachable source. I have to remember this one...:D
 
I haven't seen the movie(s), but it looks to me like the rack is hanging from a cross bar stick that is attached to the wall. If you look at the upper right hand corner of the pic you(DaQo'Tah) provided it looks like theres a horizontal stick with a screw in it fastened to the wall.
 
Misque....yes,I see now that nail...,,but the wall actually is taken away to film from behind in the very next shot....

Im more interested in how the thing actually stands on the floor?...

I want to know if the wood uprights go all the way to the floor?

I want to know if there is some sort of weight at the bottom to keep the whole rack from tipping over if top heavy?

(We got now about 6-7 inches of snow today and tonight,,,so Im stuck here on the computer with little else to do,,,,My wife is with her sister at her house and cant return until the plow digs us out perhaps this weekend?....so I wanted to build a Sword rack based on the Kill Bill design, But I cant go rent the movie!)
 
Curious...I surely don't know then. :confused:

You may have to break down and get the DVD.

With this down time on your hands, maybe you can design your own sword rack rather then emulate that one. A little creative design work and who knows, you may come up with something that'll smoke that one. :eek: :)

Good luck with it at any rate and I hope you get that snow plow to come thru soon, at least before cabin fever sets in. :D
 
Hmmmmm, 6 or 7 inches can't keep a Michigander snow bound ;) . Just lock her in 4x4 and go....HeHeHe

Seriously though, it is hard telling how those hollywood folk do there movie magic. Maybe they just suspended from wires to get the shot.

Like Misque said, come up with your own idea, and it will be better, why recreate when you can improve?
 
Misque, please don't pain yourself or waste money renting it. It is amongst the worse of the worse. I got into and admired the master smith portion of it but even that shows nothing of making the sword. The rest is dorkie to the maximum. The movie as a hole is insulting to even an idiot. Bruce Lee would have laughed if given a chance to see it. The sword stuff with the master is okay to watch but the whole thing is rounded about this pretty little girl that totally destroys with relative ease what seems like hundreds of accomplished swords men surrounding her at once. And then it even gets worse.

RL
 
ok!!!!!

I got plowed out,,,went to the video store,,,rented kill Bill Vol1.....went over the DVD one frame at a time,... 5 times the part with the sword rack.....

I now believe I know the answer to my question...(yes I know I'm the only one who really cares by now,,,but still, it was a question I had to find the answer for)


The ANSWER:
The Sword Rack in Kill Bill is clearly NOT free standing!...(yes, I admit I remembered it wrong yesterday)

The upright wooden sections are squeezed against the wall by the top sideways sections that are actually nailed to the wall to a beam.....the nailed wood at the top is tied to the uprights with cloth or a thin leather....

The uprights that the swords are hung on are clearly tight against the back panneled wall, except for one sword rack that has it's legs pushed out from the wall about 6 inches due to the twists of the wood uprights.

The poles of wood that are the uprights are just normal looking things that the guy who lives in that room has to hold up other things like his laundry and bug netting around his TV....

Although at first I thought the sword room was in an un-used room like an atic, I now see that there is a TV on in the background (The kid was watching TV when the bride came in remember)

also there are plastic totes and laundry hanging so I believe that the room is a normal liveing room, with what most Americans would think is a "atic'type" trap door in the floor, but perhaps in Japan due to everything being smaller that this type of "trap door' is seen as a normal way to get to the liveing areas?

Anyway.....as far as I can tell, thats the story behind the sword rack and how it stands up.......

as I watched the DVD this morning, I was again struck at the beauty of design of that sword rack,,,,how it goes with the rest of the room, how it is a part of the room and does not take away from the beauty of the swords,,,,yet is also very good art in it's own way.....Very Japanese!
 
Except I've never actualy seen a Japanese sword rack that looked like that, they all seem to be made of lacquered material probably by yet another guild of master craftsmen. One wonders if this isn't in the category of things that look Japanese to us, which is fine by me. One wonders if any sword maker ever had the bucks to stockpile a load of swords.
 
well.....the movie is Not Japanese,,,,,,so I would expect some stuff to be aimed at a larger market than just the Japanese....The sword rack could be such a thing.

Now the sword rack is tall,,,thats a given,,,and being that it belongs to a sword maker you would expect that he would have a huge number of swords and a pressing need to hang them correctly.

Although I have never seen the sword storage and display areas of a major sword maker in Japan, I would have to guess that in order to display a good number of different swords to people, some type of rack much like the taller Kill Bill rack would have to be used. Although I have heard that by law, a sword maker can only "finish" 2 swords a month, they have no limit to the numbers they can forge and be working on at one time. I dont believe that while working on a sword that does not yet have a handle or sheath that such a sword is best placed on the ground correct?...so The Kill Bill taller sword rack could well be a common manner to store un-finished to finished swords at a major forge.

The normal at-home way I have seen Japanese swords stored in racks is in them little racks of wood that might hold up to three different swords.

Now we here in modern America always place this type of little sword rack up high off the floor on a table, but I believe that the Japanese in history would just have the same rack sitting on the floor.

(In history, the Japanese sure live their whole lives a lot closer to the floor than western people did in that time)

The Kill Bill sword rack would fit into my more modern idea of the way to present the swords I wish to make because it does lift the swords off the floor, yet actually is still on the floor.

I plan to make about 4 Katana in my life, the Kill Bill sword rack could do a very good job at display...also the story of the rack itself would be of interest.
 
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