How does this rate as a tomahawk

garythenuke said:
This is not a custom job or what I would necessarily consider a classical hawk design. It is called the "truckman's axe" and is designed for firefighters. But it does look sturdy, it is designed for hard use, and the claws look like they could go through just about anything. Does anyone have any opinion on this?

http://www.anclotefire.com/fire tools/truckmansaxe_small.jpg
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The blade could standout a little more from the shaft/eye to be more effective as a fighter. The claw gives it some definite advantages as an entry tool though, for breaking hasps, chain, fence link, etc...
Do you have one? How heavy is it?
 
I do not have one, but I am looking to buy one. When you say "stand out a little more from the shaft/eye", do you mean in essence the blade could be longer? Not the cutting edge, but the body of the blade? As in more reach from the shaft? I am new to the whole Hawk scene, and am trying to get up on the terminiology. In doing the research on it, it is supposed to weigh 3.5 pounds, and the handle is 28 inches long. I am also getting a black cordura sheath for it.
 
At 3.5 lbs and 28 inches, it will be more axe than hawk. Not a bad thing, if that is what you want.
 
garythenuke said:
Today is the day I place my order. Can anyone give me a reason not to???
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No, I'd go for it. It's an interesting alternative to a classic tomahawk.

Yes, I did mean a longer overall blade lenght as opposed to a larger edge.
The extension helps as a fulcrum in the delivery of kinetic energy on target.

It also facilitates hooking when you can't reverse grip to use the claw.

I think that your truckman's axe still has a lot of potential. Could you tell
me how much they cost?
 
garythenuke said:
I do not have one, but I am looking to buy one. When you say "stand out a little more from the shaft/eye", do you mean in essence the blade could be longer? Not the cutting edge, but the body of the blade? As in more reach from the shaft? I am new to the whole Hawk scene, and am trying to get up on the terminiology. In doing the research on it, it is supposed to weigh 3.5 pounds, and the handle is 28 inches long. I am also getting a black cordura sheath for it.
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Just reread your 2nd post. Didn't catch the size and weight until Bobwhite
commented. He's right, 3.5 Lbs on 28" brings it out of the easy handling range
of a hawk, but then again, it depends on what you want it for.
 
Thank you for the input. I just sent my money order. I am getting it from private party for $50.00. THe condition is brand new with a sheath. I plan to sharpen the heck out of it on all the trailing edges. Please tell me how the RMJ forge Talon compares with the Emmerson Hawk for a self defense weapon. The Talon pricetag of $400 for the civilian market is too steep. The Military/LE price of $265 is even steep but doable. I apologise if this Talon vs Emmerson topic has already been covered somewhere else. I will post all the specs once I actually have it in my hand.

Thanks again,
Gary
 
For demolition work, it will rule. It would probably eat up plate armor too if need be. ;) But for woodwork or most axe duties there are better choices. I'd say too big and heavy for a hawk and if you are going to throw it, get some seriously overbuilt targets.

We must have posted at the same time. I hope you are happy with your purchase. Please post a detailed review when you put it through the paces. I am very interested about how this beast handles.
 
garythenuke said:
Thank you for the input. I just sent my money order. I am getting it from private party for $50.00. THe condition is brand new with a sheath. I plan to sharpen the heck out of it on all the trailing edges. Please tell me how the RMJ forge Talon compares with the Emmerson Hawk for a self defense weapon. The Talon pricetag of $400 for the civilian market is too steep. The Military/LE price of $265 is even steep but doable. I apologise if this Talon vs Emmerson topic has already been covered somewhere else. I will post all the specs once I actually have it in my hand.

Thanks again,
Gary
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If you're referring to the Emerson designed CQC-T, I think it's going to be a
great performer. The Talon is a great performer already. Since I haven't handled either, I'm not saying for sure, but by looks, the Talon leans
more towards multi-tasking such as breaching, and the CQC-T is designed more specifically for combat.
 
garythenuke said:
Thank you for the input. I just sent my money order. I am getting it from private party for $50.00. THe condition is brand new with a sheath. I plan to sharpen the heck out of it on all the trailing edges. Please tell me how the RMJ forge Talon compares with the Emmerson Hawk for a self defense weapon. The Talon pricetag of $400 for the civilian market is too steep. The Military/LE price of $265 is even steep but doable. I apologise if this Talon vs Emmerson topic has already been covered somewhere else. I will post all the specs once I actually have it in my hand.

Thanks again,
Gary
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Alternative tactical hawks at lower prices www.haysknivesmontana.com
look at their Ambassador Next Gen. Series
 
Very nice hawks on the hays knives site. THey are a little shorter than the Talon and the CQC-T aren't they? Also a bit heavier. The price sure seems a great deal. What about a carry sheath. Unless I totally brainfarted when I looked at the hays site, I did not see sheaths. Thanks again.
 
You're right garythenuke, I don't believe they come with sheaths. It didn't
occur to me as I use a Survival Sheath Systems underarm rig. The shorter
Hays Hawks would probably be great for this application, although you gotta
tag on another $80.00 + Robert can make you one for almost any application.
Despite what the sheepeoples think, I don't use mine for concealment purposes,
but because I've got other crap on my belt rig and don't want to
add the hawk to it. If your interested, check out www.survivalsheath.com
I LOVE mine.
 
I've thrown axes with handles like that before, they are "fiberglass" or actually I think they're resin.. they feel like nylon..

anywho, if you dont stick it, be careful, those handles make the axes do wild stuff.. watchout for bounce-back

and those handles get pretty beat up too, if its a thrower..

just astheticly beat up, doesnt break, just gets tons of nicks in it from missed throws..

and as far as throwing goes, the edge looks too curved , straighter edged hawks seem to stick easier than something with such an arc to it. (is my experiance)
 
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