How fast do I have to quench?

Larrin

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The speed at which you have to quench a steel to obtain full hardness or full martensite is known as hardenability. Hardenability is not a measure of how hard the steel can get but simply how fast it must be cooled to get there. Steels with different levels of hardenability are sometimes categorized into the type of quench required, such as water hardening, oil hardening, or air hardening.

We can measure hardenability in a few different ways. One way is with a Continuous Cooling Transformation (CCT) diagram. The steels are first austenitized by heating to high temperature and holding for the proscribed time, and then cooled at different rates. In-situ measurements are recorded such as dilatometry to determine the temperatures at which the steel transforms to other phases. Often the final samples are also measured for hardness and observed with metallography. An example CCT curve for a "eutectoid steel", probably 1075 or 1080, is shown below:
eutectoid steel cct.png
A water quench cools the steel very rapidly, within a few seconds, leading to full martensite. The "full anneal" cools very slowly and passes through those lines at top referring to the pearlite transformation start and finish. The "critical cooling rate" shows the cooling rate required to pass in front of the "nose" without any pearlite formation. The oil quench is not fast enough to avoid pearlite formation so this steel would be classified as a water quenching steel.

Certain alloying elements can be added to enhance hardenability and allow slower quench rates. These alloying elements push the "nose" of the CCT curve to the right, ie at longer times. The following diagram shows the relative effect of a few of the important elements:
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So Molybdenum (Mo) is a very effective hardenability element, followed by Mn and Cr, with Ni and Si having relatively small effects on hardenability.

O1 is an oil hardening steel with additions of Mn and Cr for added hardenability to allow an oil quench. You can see its CCT curve below:
O1 cct.png
Where the "eutectoid" steel with low hardenability additions required a quench lasting around 20 seconds, O1 looks like it can be quenched at a rate almost 10x slower than that, and therefore allows oil hardening rather than water.

If even more alloy is added than an air hardening steel is obtained, such as Vanadis 4 Extra:
vanadis 4 extra cct.png
Vanadis 4 Extra can be cooled even more slowly, and therefore can allow hardening in air instead of water or oil. However, one interesting thing is that full hardness is shown even for the cooling curves labeled 3-5 which pass through the carbide section of the CCT curve. So obtaining full hardness may not be a guarantee of full martensite. The carbides may not be desirable for mechanical properties, or with a stainless steel for corrosion resistance.

Another method for measuring hardenability is the Jominy test. A cylinder of steel is heated evenly at the austenitizing temperature, and then cooled on one end with water:
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The end sprayed with water is cooled very rapidly, and the cooling rate is progressively slower the further you go from the water cooled end. Then hardness can be measured along the bar:
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These Jominy tests can give an indication of what thickness of material can be fully hardened, as they provide quick information on thickness vs hardness. After all, if quenching a very thick piece of steel, the core will cool much more slowly than the surface. With an air hardening steel the core is likely to still form full martensite. But with a water quenching steel, the core may not fully harden even with thicknesses relevant to knives. These Jominy tests may also be used to compare relative hardenability of different steels:
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This gives an obvious example of how the different alloying elements directly affect hardenability. Also, all of the steels reached the same hardness, apart from 1040, showing that hardenability and peak hardness are two different concepts.

There are several other things that can affect hardenability, and I will cover two of them. With high carbon steels there are carbides that are intentionally left in the steel during austenitizing. With higher temperatures, more of these carbides dissolve so that more alloy is in solution. For example, as a stainless steel is heated to higher austenitizing temperatures more of its chromium carbides dissolve leaving more carbon and chromium in solution. That carbon and chromium increases the hardenability. So in general hardenability is increased with higher austenitizing temperatures.

One more important factor is grain size. Grain boundaries are high energy areas that act as nucleation sites for the transformation phases. So if the carbides or pearlite nucleate they are likely to do so on the austenite grain boundaries. With finer grain size there is more boundary area for nucleation. So finer grain size leads to poorer hardenability:
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(A bigger number of ASTM grain size refers to a smaller grain size.) Overaustenitizing leads to grain growth, so again, a higher austenitizing temperature can lead to an improvement in hardenability.
 
Thanks Larrin! I really appreciate you taking the time to post this. I'd like to ask a question. What is the difference between ITT/IT diagrams and the CCT charts, for a simple guy like me who just wants to know how fast a steel must be quenched? When I look at an IT chart for O1, it shows a "nose" at the 10 second mark. For example: http://www.cashenblades.com/steel/o1.html. Whereas the CCT chart shows O1 having a "nose" at 1 minute.

I know the CCT is for a continuous cooling, and the IT/TTT are for a fixed temp. Can you help differentiate the 2, just to know how fast a steel needs to be quenched in order to achieve what we are after, namely, max HRC in a quench?

In like manner, the IT/TTT charts show that a eutectoid (low alloy) steel has about 1 second to beat the pearlite nose. https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=gmaxk4kC&id=7588B1EF1DD86DF36F747BB42A1F702A50AE4EE8&thid=OIP.gmaxk4kCr_NS2DE3To6vmQHaIV&mediaurl=http://blog.ub.ac.id/okkyardiansyah/files/2012/03/2-Isothermal-%E2%80%93-Transformation-Diagram-for-a-1080-Eutectoid-Steel.jpg&exph=676&expw=601&q=1080+steel+TTT+chart&simid=608024628009831669&selectedIndex=1&ajaxhist=0
I know there is a simple answer that I'm overlooking. Thanks for your help.
 
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The Time-Temperature-Transformation (TTT) and Isothermal Transformation (IT) diagrams use "isothermal" holds, meaning it is quenched rapidly to a specified temperature and then held there for whatever time is required. The transformation behavior can appear similar but there are important differences between the two. Generally, a CCT diagram is shifted down and to the right relative to a TTT diagram. Oftentimes bainite does not appear on a CCT diagram because if sufficient pearlite, ferrite, or carbides form then bainite is bypassed in favor of martensite (or it just fully transforms to pearlite, ferrite, or carbides). CCT curves are in general more practical since interrupted quenching usually requires salt pots which are much less common than cooling directly to near room temperature. However, for some reason TTT diagrams are very common, they must have been easier to generate back in the day.
 
Larrin Larrin , thank you very much for your great posts. When you have the time, please talk a little bit about bainitic transformation, something much dear to me, as a toughness freak.
 
Does moly make steel deeper hardening in the quench or more temper resistant? Or both? I seem to recall Larrin or Hoss talking about moly making L6 more temper resistant.
 
Does moly make steel deeper hardening in the quench or more temper resistant? Or both? I seem to recall Larrin or Hoss talking about moly making L6 more temper resistant.
It does both. It also strongly contributes to secondary hardening when using an upper temper.
 
Since I was asked about the effect of Molybdenum I will say a little more about how the alloy additions affect hardenability. Here is a nice diagram showing pearlite formation:
pearlite formation.png
Carbon has very little solubility in ferrite, around a max of 0.02%. However, obviously the cementite has a very high weight fraction of carbon. So as the alternating bands of cementite and ferrite form, the carbon diffuses ahead of the growing pearlite into the growing cementite and out of the growing ferrite. However, carbon is not the only element that forms preferentially in cementite rather than ferrite. Manganese, for exmple, has poor solubility in ferrite and high solubility in cementite, so similarly to carbon the manganese must diffuse to form pearlite. However, while carbon is a small interstitial atom that diffuses between the iron atoms, manganese is a substitutional atom. A substitutional atom replaces an iron atom, and the mechanism for diffusion is much slower, as illustrated here:
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You can see that those small, red interstitial atoms can move relatively freely between the larger atoms. However, substitutional diffusion has to occur through a mechanism like vacancy diffusion, where other atoms have to move into vacancies, or missing atoms in the structure, for another atom to move. This makes elements like Mn, Mo, and Cr effective hardenability additions. They form preferentially in cementite, so must diffuse for pearlite or carbide formation, while also diffusing slowly because they are substitutional atoms. The mechanism is similar if forming Mo or Cr carbides rather than cementite.

Tempering also involves the precipitation of carbides, and Mo, Cr, and Mn add to temper resistance by suppressing carbide formation in a similar mechanism described above.
 
I will talk about one more subject since this thread isn't exactly taking off: why are CCT and TTT curves shaped like a C?
To answer this, we have to look at our diagram again:
eutectoid-steel-cct-png.853233

Once the steel is cooled just barely below the eutectoid temperature it should transform to ferrite and cementite if given an infinite amount of time. However, when cooled just below that temperature the "driving force" or the degree to which the steel "wants" to transform is very low. As the temperature is decreased below the eutectoid temperature the driving force increases and the rate of transformation increases. However, as the temperature is decreasing the speed of diffusion is also decreasing, and diffusion is required for the transformation to take place. So at some temperature the rate of transformation stops increasing and begins to slow down instead. This creates the "nose" at which there is a perfect balance of driving force and diffusion. If the temperature is low enough then the driving force is so high that a transformation takes place without diffusion, which is called martensite formation.
 
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