How many of a sprint run are numbered?

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DonkeyDon

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Short version--
I've received 3 dragonfly 2 super blues from varying sources, but none are numbered as part of the sprint run. Are only a portion of the 1200 piece sprint runs numbered? Or is this exotic super blue thing going into regular production, and thus these are expected to be unnumbered?

Excessive long backstory--
So I was really excited about the Dragonfly 2 in Super Blue, so I preordered two. And when they didn't come in for 4 months, and everyone showed them out of stock or discontinued, I proceeded to panic.... and overpaid for a couple on ebay because I didn't want to miss out, and when shipping delayed on both of those , I jumped on a stock notification email at an online vendor an ordered another. So far, I've received 3 of the 5 I ordered.
 
I don't believe spyderco numbers their sprints. None of mine are. They make the 1200 and are done. Also Spyderco collector club knives are numbered.
 
I think the collector club numbered knives go from 001-200.
I think each model that comes out has 200 individual knives numbered 001-200 for the collector club members. I assume this also applies to sprint runs.

Someone please corrected if I am wrong.

Mike
 
Screwdriver said:
My SB Stretch is a numbered CC knife......Pretty sure the regular run is not numbered.
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I had a older version (rounded thumb jimping) stretch with ZDP-189/CF scales and it was # 156.
Wish I still had it ....
 
M.FREEZE said:
I think the collector club numbered knives go from 001-200.
I think each model that comes out has 200 individual knives numbered 001-200 for the collector club members. I assume this also applies to sprint runs.

Someone please corrected if I am wrong.

Mike
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Correct. Although I believe not all 200 spots are currently taken.
 
rycen said:
Correct. Although I believe not all 200 spots are currently taken.
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According to my SpyderCo sales agent, as of last Wednesday there are 110 #'s available on the CC program. Main pieces are engraved with a 3 digit number (000 - 200) and Variations are engraved as a 3 digit number followed by a V (000V-200V). When a collector drops from the program or for whatever reason does not accept their knife then Spyderco can and does offer it up for sale. Members choose which type of knives they wish to receive at time of enrollment based on member level starting with Main Pieces, then Sprints, then Variations. Sets like Mules or Kopas are added on. If you are not a CC member and have a numbered Sprint either the member sold it or did not take it and SpyderCo released it to the public and thus it came to you. Either way that number is a membership feature.
 
Greykilt said:
According to my SpyderCo sales agent, as of last Wednesday there are 110 #'s available on the CC program. Main pieces are engraved with a 3 digit number (000 - 200) and Variations are engraved as a 3 digit number followed by a V (000V-200V). When a collector drops from the program or for whatever reason does not accept their knife then Spyderco can and does offer it up for sale. Members choose which type of knives they wish to receive at time of enrollment based on member level starting with Main Pieces, then Sprints, then Variations. Sets like Mules or Kopas are added on. If you are not a CC member and have a numbered Sprint either the member sold it or did not take it and SpyderCo released it to the public and thus it came to you. Either way that number is a membership feature.
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FWIW, some Spyderco dealers have multiple Collectors Club memberships. They do that mainly to insure they receive a few extra of the most desirable Sprints and a few pieces of Dealer Exclusives commissioned by other dealers that they would not get at all, and sell the numbered knives. Among BF member dealers, HKS and NGK come to mind.
 
The Deacon said:
FWIW, some Spyderco dealers have multiple Collectors Club memberships. They do that mainly to insure they receive a few extra of the most desirable Sprints and a few pieces of Dealer Exclusives commissioned by other dealers that they would not get at all, and sell the numbered knives. Among BF member dealers, HKS and NGK come to mind.
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Yes Sir, but (and I might be wrong here) I was under the impression that Dealership Membership was a different program. Rachel sent me the available #'s list and I noticed that All knife runs get numbered, but lets say you are a CC Bronze (as opposed to Siver or Gold) Level Member #36 and receive Main pieces only. What happens to the Sprints and Variations that are engraved #036? I thought those went to Dealerships....but again I might be wrong here.
 
Greykilt said:
Yes Sir, but (and I might be wrong here) I was under the impression that Dealership Membership was a different program. Rachel sent me the available #'s list and I noticed that All knife runs get numbered, but lets say you are a CC Bronze (as opposed to Siver or Gold) Level Member #36 and receive Main pieces only. What happens to the Sprints and Variations that are engraved #036? I thought those went to Dealerships....but again I might be wrong here.
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I too could be wrong, but I think most, if not all, of those dealer memberships have existed since before the change in the program back in 2009. As for the question you raised, once again I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that only the pieces a member's contract has committed him to purchasing are engraved with his number. So, in the case of your hypothetical Bronze Level Collector #036, no variants, Sprint or otherwise, with the number 036V would exist.
 
The Deacon said:
I too could be wrong, but I think most, if not all, of those dealer memberships have existed since before the change in the program back in 2009. As for the question you raised, once again I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that only the pieces a member's contract has committed him to purchasing are engraved with his number. So, in the case of your hypothetical Bronze Level Collector #036, no variants, Sprint or otherwise, with the number 036V would exist.
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Looked over my contract from Tamara and from what I read:
1. For any numbers not assigned a collector these knives will not be numbered so at this point a first run production of 200 knives would only have the current 90 members #'s engraved on the knives. I.E. since there is an open 099, no knife would have that # engraved on it. So if you have a Numbered knife it was at one time assigned to a specific Collector who either opted out or parted with it or failed to pick it up. If the latter the dealer notifies Collector and SpyderCo then sends it back to SpyderCo.
2. Dealers are offered a different program (Premier Program) for dealers & distributers interested in being first to get quantity to sell.
3. There will be only one number assigned to one name- SpyderCo will not set up more than one collector to one name and SpyderCo will not set up numbers without an end user contract. All Collectors data, phone #'s, address, e mail, financials, are verified and on file and ALL knives in the Collectors Class must be purchased. An authorized dealer must be selected and approved to receive the knives and Collector picks knives up from that authorized approved Dealer. It is a serious committmit and failure to comply breeches the contract and Collector can lose privilege And membership.
It would be rather pointless for me to be a registered collector under contract with SpyderCo if all I had to do was head down to my local dealer and buy a first run numbered knife out of his case. Part of the privilege of being a registered collector is the accompanying Certificate of Ownership with My Name and My number associated with that specific knife. A registered Collector perk not open to commercial retail dealerships. Thats not to say a dealer may not be a collector with his own individual # and that he won't sell one of his particular knives to his customers but the collector program is not set up for the commercial sale of first production knives by retailers to the public. Having a first run numbered knife accompanied by a certificate of ownership with some one else's name on it seems rather unfulffiling.
But again that is merely my opinion.
 
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