How to best modify My KLVUK spine to throw sparks from a ferro rod.

[uluapark]

Looking to modify my KLVUK so i can throw sparks from a ferro rod, using the spine. since it is diff heat treated is this a wise choice?
IF you were to do it, how would you?

any help is appreciated.

 

[Gehazi]

very neat idea for a handy tool feature on a big camp knife , very neat-- but I have no idea, someone will, but I still think its awesome idea-- my personal thought is to get a special tool with a striking iron ?

 

[philllll]

What about modifying the cho area?

 

[uluapark]

cho is a pivot point for impacts and keeps fluids from getting from the blade to the grip no?

 

[philllll]

I was thinking just take out the little piece the sticks out, and you would have a perfect little round groove.

 

[ndoghouse]

Use the flat behind the cho. Its closer the the handle an makes that quick snap scrape action easier. Might need to square it off with a file if it has been ground round. I guess its hard enuff there?

 

[uluapark]

i cant ndog, this is my firesteel i use.

 

[machinist4life]

Im inclined to go with phill on this one, as the cho is already there and should only need a lil TLC w/ a file to get a sharp edge. Ndoghouse has a fine idea as well, but it will probably come down to where you are comfortable having a sharp edge that isn't the blade edge, I feel pretty sure that hardness won't be a issue, as the cheesy lil piece of hacksaw blade that I use is pretty soft on its spine, and so long as I keep the 90° edge sharp, sparks fly ; ).... Man, I am really gettinv anxious for my klvuk to arrive. Off to bed now....

 

[uluapark]

i cant use the area behind the cho, or the cho its self, my ferro rod is 1" diameter, by 6" long. and the cho as i understand it, serves a mechanical funtion critical to the kukri's function, having to do with impact absorbtion.

 

[ndoghouse]

Of to bed myself. I have never heard of or ever seen a rod that big ula! I had a half inch and thought that was big as they come. P38 can opener worked for me. I see your point now! I use bow drill or fire piston almost exclusively now.

Im inclined to go with phill on this one, as the cho is already there and should only need a lil TLC w/ a file to get a sharp edge. Ndoghouse has a fine idea as well, but it will probably come down to where you are comfortable having a sharp edge that isn't the blade edge, I feel pretty sure that hardness won't be a issue, as the cheesy lil piece of hacksaw blade that I use is pretty soft on its spine, and so long as I keep the 90° edge sharp, sparks fly ; ).... Man, I am really gettinv anxious for my klvuk to arrive. Off to bed now....

 

[J W Bensinger]

If it were me I would use the square area behind the cho as well. Using the spine will mean directing the edge back at yourself- possibly in a situation where you're kinda stressed to begin with.
You could open the cho to a shallow arc, or just use the edge right in front of the cho. Best solution of all is store a piece of a file ground to a square edge with your fire starter, and eliminate using the heavy sharp thing at all.
If you have to use your KLVUK in a situation where it's use is producing "fluids"...
That little cho ain't gonna cut it. You're gonna get wet...

 

[uluapark]

the cho also has a function of a pivot point for when the kuk impacts something, it is the flex point on the blade, modifying it could cause a catastrophic failure of the blade.

 

[Steely_Gunz]

Eh, I dunno if the cho really does all that much. There is a lot of debate as to what function is serves. I've heard it was a place to absorb shock or a notch for blood and gore to drip and keep it off the handle. I've also heard it's mostly traditional and religious with little to no function.

I don't think I would grind the cho out just because I LIKE the look You might just ask yourself, "Am I ever going to need the edge of the khuk THAT far down on the blade?" I rarely use it. The sweet spot and tip get used and the recurve might see some rope duty. If you used the sharp edge just up from the cho, you'd probably throw a lot of sparks and still have PLENTY of edge to do any other task you'd like.

Then again, I have never gotten the hang of using a big knife strike fires. I fumble with them too much and nearly cut myself.

 

[J W Bensinger]

If the cho was going to be a weak point, it would already be one. That's a stress riser in a big way, but the kamis have worked it out.
You'd be amazed what will hold together under stress:
This is an old partial tang with a laminated blade- what looks like a crack in the blade is actually a failed weld, dating to the making of the knife (note how the kami has peened it shut with punchmarks). This has seen some use and if THAT didn't let go, i don't think theres much you could do to your KLVUK to hurt it.

 

[Jens Schuetz]

cho is a pivot point for impacts and keeps fluids from getting from the blade to the grip no?

I tried with oil and water. The cho didn't stop it from reaching the grip. Maybe blood drips better from there or it's a myth?
My cho serves me as a tiny bit outchy warning before my fingers slide into the sharpened section of the blade.

 

[muszeuhs]

As Steely alluded to, you're asking for trouble if you want to use a khuk to strike a rod.

Consider using one of the accessory tools that came with your khuk.

 

[Jens Schuetz]

Eh, I dunno if the cho really does all that much. There is a lot of debate as to what function is serves. I've heard it was a place to absorb shock or a notch for blood and gore to drip and keep it off the handle. I've also heard it's mostly traditional and religious with little to no function.

My favorite cho theory was that its pointed so that the owner can poke himself.
Because as we all know once a Kukri is drawn it has to drink blood. So if no enemy is around we have to poke ourselves or else. Or else what? What do the guys, who claim a Kukri always needs to drink blood once drawn, think will happen if you leave it thirsty?

 

[ndoghouse]

You are asking for guna guna trouble!

 

[Steely_Gunz]

My favorite cho theory was that its pointed so that the owner can poke himself.
Because as we all know once a Kukri is drawn it has to drink blood. So if no enemy is around we have to poke ourselves or else. Or else what? What do the guys, who claim a Kukri always needs to drink blood once drawn, think will happen if you leave it thirsty?

I love that myth about khuks always requiring blood every time they are pulled from their scabbard
I'm pretty sure has less to do with appeasing the khuk's bloodlust and more to do with a Gurkha getting tired of British soldiers asking them to "be a good chap and hand over that rather savage knife so that I can inspect its rather ghoulish and fierce blade"

It would make sense. "Sure, you can see it, but it has to be fed first...hold out your hand."

 

[Jens Schuetz]

I love that myth about khuks always requiring blood every time they are pulled from their scabbard
I'm pretty sure has less to do with appeasing the khuk's bloodlust and more to do with a Gurkha getting tired of British soldiers asking them to "be a good chap and hand over that rather savage knife so that I can inspect its rather ghoulish and fierce blade"

It would make sense. "Sure, you can see it, but it has to be fed first...hold out your hand."

Lol. Just picturing that made my day.