How to carry a HAK?

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For those of you who actually EDC a HideAway Knife, how do you carry it? The options that they suggest on their website are not practical for me since I wear a suit most days and won't wear it on my belt (really not discreet enough). I've tried mounting it inside my suit jacket using the "Bro-Clip" so it hangs down like the Boker Bud Nealy Specialist. However, those damn clips can put holes in your suit and rip the fabric. :mad:

I love the knife and would EDC it if I could carry it discreetly and without ruining my clothes. How do you folks carry it? Please help, throw some suggestions at me. Thanks.
 
Depends on what use the knife is to you?

If its just for cutting the odd piece of paper, or whatever, put it in your suit pocket

If its for personal protection, maybe develop a high speed, low drag, forearm sheath, like Batman.
 
If you wear a jacket all day, you could probably do something like a Merc-harness where you have it slung around your back and shoulders so that it hangs on your left side, for cross draw. Just get some Paracord and fashion up a harness.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318713

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If it were me, I'd try mounting it behind the tie somehow just for kicks. More realistically, some dark cord through the sheath holes, let it rest in a pocket with the cord through a belt or button loop. I've always been tempted by the 'Sheathsticks'...except I'm not paying twenty dollars for two pins, there has to be a cheaper alternative.
 
If it were me, I'd try mounting it behind the tie somehow just for kicks. More realistically, some dark cord through the sheath holes, let it rest in a pocket with the cord through a belt or button loop. I've always been tempted by the 'Sheathsticks'...except I'm not paying twenty dollars for two pins, there has to be a cheaper alternative.

Hmmm, this sounds interesting. William provides us with enough cord to wrap a small dog, so this might work. Would need something re-usable so that I'm not re-tying the cord every day.

BTW, I bought one for the wife and we had some issues with sizing and availability of the one she wanted. William has been nothing short of incredible to deal with. A really good guy.
 
He's an amazing guy to work with, agreed. I've got my eye on another one down the line. Pondering the carry system more...They has to be a way to pin it inside the waistband, behind the belt somehow. Not sure how formal we're talking, three piece of a button-shirt and tie, but I've managed to hide a black cord-wrapped HAK with a few darker outfits, on the old belt wrap model.
 
For those of you who actually EDC a HideAway Knife, how do you carry it? The options that they suggest on their website are not practical for me since I wear a suit most days and won't wear it on my belt (really not discreet enough). I've tried mounting it inside my suit jacket using the "Bro-Clip" so it hangs down like the Boker Bud Nealy Specialist. However, those damn clips can put holes in your suit and rip the fabric. :mad:

I love the knife and would EDC it if I could carry it discreetly and without ruining my clothes. How do you folks carry it? Please help, throw some suggestions at me. Thanks.

Easier than you'd imagine! :)
I just went through this thought process last month while planning for an overseas trip to a country where;
A) EDC knives were not permitted, (i.e. allowed by law.) :grumpy:
B) I needed to wear a suit, but wearing a suit didn't lend itself to concealment.

The criteria for my sheath were that
A) the knife didn't pattern the clothing so no visible knife shapes
B) the knife could still be deployed and re-sheathed easily and quickly, i.e. it remained vertical and not dragging at my clothes.
C) comfortable enough so that I wasn't constantly aware of the knife
D) Left handed use (I'm a lefty.)
E) It didn't have to be pretty. It just had to work... :p

For this trip I chose to carry a larger bladed axis-lock folder. (Your HideAway Knife would be a much easier to conceal and carry knife.) I chose to carry it in my left front pants pocket, which made it a challenge not to drag down my pants or fall to the bottom of the pocket. My original thoughts had been for smaller dress knives while wearing a suit but this sheath worked so well that I can continue to use larger ones with dress clothing.

I made a couple of these because I wasn't sure which knife I was going to take with me. I started with a piece of 5-6 oz. veg tanned leather and cut it to the shape of the pocket, about 1/2" smaller, from the bottom to just below where the slash cut opening begins, planning to use the rough side out towards the cloth/hair side in towards the knife. (The knife goes behind the stiffer leather, closer to my leg.) I skived the front edges to they wouldn't show against the cloth and stitched a piece of split thick suede to the back side, following the general contours of the knives I planned to carry when wearing dress pants; Benchmade 710, Spyderco Military, a thin Al Mar or a very thin Moki. Then I dampened the veg tanned leather and molded it around my thigh, being sure that the edges were given some extra inward molding so they wouldn't press against the front of the pants when my leg pressed against the sheath from behind and show the shape of the sheath against the cloth.

I decided upon using suede and rough-out leather so that there would be plenty of friction against the cloth to keep it in place when I withdraw the knife. Only the friction of the leather against the pocket material holds it in place, yet it never moved at all when I withdrew the knife to use it for chores. Using veg tanned leather allowed me to make it conform to the shape of my leg while in the pocket, keeping the edges from pressing outwards against the cloth. The 5-6oz leather is just stiff enough to keep the knife from imprinting on the pants material but not so stiff as to be noticeable in the pocket, and the inner suede strong enough to keep the knife from moving around but still soft enough to allow easy withdrawal and re-entry. The knife stays upright in the pocket at a slight angle, just as if it were clipped to the pocket's edge, doesn't show from the front or the top, and it easy to deploy. the large size of this sheath evenly distributes the weight of the knife over the entire area of the front of the pants so there is no 'dragging' or 'drooping' of the cloth showing the outline of the knife. For a fixed blade knife I'd add a spline to keep the blade from cutting the sheath. :thumbup: As for size of the fixed blade, you are only limited by the depth of your pocket to the slash opening (provided you don't want any of the sheath to be visible.)

I think accurate cutting of the heavier leather is important when making this design so that it fills the pocket without stretching it. The exact size of the inner suede pouch isn't as critical so long as it covers 3/4 of the knife leaving the end free to be grabbed by the fingers for withdrawal. (The front, stiff leather covers all of the knife.) I find that one of my sheaths will accommodate several different size and shape folders, yet still perform as required. This design isn't as fast as a pocket clip, but it met all my criteria and will be something I'll continue to use when wearing dress clothes.

Stitchawl
 
As long as you have a jacket on most of the time, I recommend a rear pocket with a static line looped around a rear belt loop or the belt itself. You could use colored paracord that best matches your daily clothes or a nice chain.
 
I wear suits and I have owned HAKs since Mick Strider was making the prototypes. Wear it under your shirt and don't button the 3rd button. This gives you access to the HAK and your tie will cover the opened button.
 
Folks,

Thank you all for the suggestions. It's great to come here and get folks like you to take the time to pass on some relevant and useful advice. This forum is invaluable.

Stitchawl, that sheath system sounds awesome, and I'm going to look into something like that. However, being rather clumsy when it comes to making things, I'll keep my creative license to a minimum. ;)

AlexSchira and s.c., those ideas are similar, and I think simple enough for even me to follow. They also allow me to remove and attach the HAK easily every day. I'm going to try those with either some paracord or ballchain. I think one of those "S-biners" would help with that setup. Thanks.

CWL, I guess you're suggesting I wear it as a neck knife. I agree that it makes a good necker, but I'm hesitant to rely on a neck knife due to it's tendency to move. Maybe I need to get over that. :o
 
He's an amazing guy to work with, agreed. I've got my eye on another one down the line. Pondering the carry system more...They has to be a way to pin it inside the waistband, behind the belt somehow. Not sure how formal we're talking, three piece of a button-shirt and tie, but I've managed to hide a black cord-wrapped HAK with a few darker outfits, on the old belt wrap model.

Behind the belt, or in front? I'd be willing to buy the belt-wrap if I could hide it behind the belt.
 
PV29,
The size of the HAK is so small that it is impractical to be a primary SD knife, which is what I'm guessing you want. I look at the HAK as a last-resort, deep concealment item for a -"I'm outta ammo" situation.

If you use ID badges at your work, the holder looks like a great way to keep it accessible.

How about pocket carry?

If you work in an environment where fast access to SD devices are needed, then HAK isn't going to be your answer.

For me, I've carried a Spyderco Civilian, Benchmade 940, and currently a Yojimbo at my side. I clip it to my slacks under the belt. So far, I have never been questioned about the 1" of clip that's exposed beneath my belt.
 
PV29,
The size of the HAK is so small that it is impractical to be a primary SD knife, which is what I'm guessing you want. I look at the HAK as a last-resort, deep concealment item for a -"I'm outta ammo" situation.

If you use ID badges at your work, the holder looks like a great way to keep it accessible.

How about pocket carry?

If you work in an environment where fast access to SD devices are needed, then HAK isn't going to be your answer.

For me, I've carried a Spyderco Civilian, Benchmade 940, and currently a Yojimbo at my side. I clip it to my slacks under the belt. So far, I have never been questioned about the 1" of clip that's exposed beneath my belt.

CWL,
I have one of the Utility versions of the HAK, so SD is not the reason for having it. Also, here in downstate NY the fact that it's a fixed blade and fits on the hand tends to scare folks who view it as something other than a tool. Therefore, I'm trying to find a way where I can conceal it well (and not cause hysteria) but also access it relatively easily. In other words, I'm trying to balance the concerns/reactions of the sheeple with my need for a handy tool. Given he state of the law here, I really don't carry anything for SD. In fact, given my "druthers", I'd just carry my Walther everyday for SD, but I'd still carry a knife as an everyday tool.

The knives you suggest are great knives, but would create commotion here even if I just used it to open a Tyvex wrapped business envelope (a common task in my office). Enter the HAK. It's small size makes it relatively non-threatening when deployed discreetly (as you have observed) yet it's ergos and blade quality make it a very good tool for cutting tasks. I have an Al Mar Falcon Ultralight Talon clipped IWB most days, or a BM 707 clipped to my pocket. Both great knives, but I'd like to use the HAK and work it into my EDC. You're suggestion of using it as a necker is a good one, but it may move and imprint against my shirt. That was my concern, not that it would flip around as I wrestled with an attacker on the ground. Maybe I need to stop being so obsessed with what others think/feel, but around these parts it IS a concern. :o

Hey, thanks again for the help. Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
 
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