How to get detent ball in an integral handle?

[blueline1226]

I'm new here, hello everyone! I have a question I just couldn't find when searching... How do you set a detent ball into an integral handle liner lock? Is there a simple trick that is done, or somewhere I could be lead to, to view how its done? I'm trying to wrap my head around how its done when there's no space to push the ball in with a vice with such little clearance. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Dawkind]

I think everything is done/loaded through the pivot hole(s).


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[Dawkind]

I think everything is done/loaded through the pivot hole(s).


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[blueline1226]

but thats completely off axis to most locks, do you have a photo or reference to this?

 

[Dawkind]

Sorry, I was thinking about bearings and such.....

I've got these two integrals and they have a hole drilled through the locking-bar to spot the blade and then I imagine the detent is seated in the hole using whatever to seat it to the proper depth.

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[butcher_block]

i would use something like a vice grip with one side of the jaws ground away for clearance to fit into the slot then pinch the ball in with a washer of the ame thickness as the pivot so asa to set the depth properly

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

Drop in ball with tweezers, shim ball with washer dropped over it to desired depth, add a second large shim that is blade plus pivot washer/bearing gap thickness. Put in arbor press and press on lock bar to set.

The first shim would simply be a washer or two, say .025" tall. The second shim would be thick and large like the blade, maybe .170" for a .155" blade.


You could also use one shim with a recess in it set to the detent height. Insert over the ball and press until shim is flush.

 

[blueline1226]

Excellent, thanks for all the info guys! I also thought of placing a small cut of hardened steel between the gap with the ball and washer spacer... Then insert in a press pushing down on the outside of the lockbar. That should seat it just as well, I think I'll try that way first, if not I'll use some of the things you guys listed. Thanks again!

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

Excellent, thanks for all the info guys! I also thought of placing a small cut of hardened steel between the gap with the ball and washer spacer... Then insert in a press pushing down on the outside of the lockbar. That should seat it just as well, I think I'll try that way first, if not I'll use some of the things you guys listed. Thanks again!

That's what I meant, just hard to explain well. Sounds like you have a good plan! Let's see some pics of you get a chance, sounds like a cool project.