How to spot cheap Chinese copy of Slysz Bowie?

Sonnydaze

Sonnydaze

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How to spot cheap Chinese copy of Slysz Bowie? There are so many chinese clones out there, for just about any knife..
Thanx in advance. I cannot afford to get scammed...
Sonnydaze
 
Easy to spot based on what I've seen of at least 1 version of it on the Net but there may be others that are better.

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Well, yeah. He can get enough for a real one to get several fakes.🙄

To add to my previous post, if it ships from China, you can bet it's a counterfeit, no matter how good it looks.
 
The OP's SB is the highest priced on BF am I correct? Nothing wrong. If I love SW as much as he I would price it at $1k.
 
I hit some financial woes a few years ago and decided to sell of a huge portion of my collection and the SB was part of that. I regret so hard getting rid of it. It was such a good knife.
 
nick800 said:
This should be their flagship knife that is still in production, regardless of cost/price
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I agree in principle - no company will maintain an unprofitable line unless there's money in it. Their line runs from the brutally pedestrian to the nightmarishly bizarre, occasionally highlighted by some truly outstanding works such as the SB, Paysan and other collaborations. These few break up (at least in my opinion) a long line of unimaginative sameness (steel variety notwithstanding). They are undisputably adept at providing a broad choice in that regard. It would be a dream come true to see them re-release some of the greats in Magnacut. I don't think I'm being unnecessarily harsh toward Spyderco - I have many I'd never part with, and still hope to find a few more of their discontinued pieces. All the production makers (folders) have shortcomings but Spyderco always holds out the potential for something amazing; CRK's line (while consistently high quality) offers comparatively minimal variety.
Allan
 
nick800 said:
This should be their flagship knife that is still in production, regardless of cost/price
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IDK if it should be considered Spyderco's "flagship knife" but there's certainly sufficient demand for the knife to justify a company "sprint" rather than a just a dealer exclusive. The only question is how Spyderco could make a SB2 different enough from the SB1 and the KJ exclusive to release another version.
 
It's called a loss leader

ADBrown said:
I agree in principle - no company will maintain an unprofitable line unless there's money in it. Their line runs from the brutally pedestrian to the nightmarishly bizarre, occasionally highlighted by some truly outstanding works such as the SB, Paysan and other collaborations. These few break up (at least in my opinion) a long line of unimaginative sameness (steel variety notwithstanding). They are undisputably adept at providing a broad choice in that regard. It would be a dream come true to see them re-release some of the greats in Magnacut. I don't think I'm being unnecessarily harsh toward Spyderco - I have many I'd never part with, and still hope to find a few more of their discontinued pieces. All the production makers (folders) have shortcomings but Spyderco always holds out the potential for something amazing; CRK's line (while consistently high quality) offers comparatively minimal variety.
Allan
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The spider emblem on the blade is usually the best giveaway. The 3 dimensional emblem that was used isn’t copied over correctly on the fakes.
 
yablanowitz said:
"Flagship"? Hardly. "Should still be in production" I don't agree. It didn't become wildly popular until it was discontinued. "Regardless of cost/price" is a rocket sled to Chapter 11.
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I agree with this. People only remember it as “being such a great knife” because it can’t be had anymore. Were the “good ol’ days” really that good? No. We just choose to remember the good parts. Same with the SB. No one gave a rats behind it was getting dropped until Nick S. did a YouTube review.
 
As an avid collector, I have an interest in the subject of detecting counterfeit knives.
The easiest method is to use an accurate scale to weigh the knife in grams. Then lookup the knife on the Spyderco website, which lists the weight in grams of the genuine knife.

Or, if the original and sample knives have one or two Ti scales, the counterfeit will usually have stainless steel, aluminum, or some cheap alloy scales in substitution. Measure the density of the scales. If they are clearly _not_ titanium, then it is proven counterfeit. If they are titanium, it does not prove it’s genuine, but the probability goes way up.

To calculate the density, g/cm^3, remove the scales, and use a graduated cylinder of water to precisely measure its volume in cm^3. (The change in water level when the scales are added to the cylinder; they must be completely submerged). Then remove and dry the scales and weigh them in grams. Divide g/cm^3 to get the density value.

Ti knife scales are made using Ti 6Al-4V (aka, Grade 5 or TC4), which has a density of 4.43 - 4.51 g/cm^3. Aluminum is 2.7, and Stainless Steel 7.85 - 8.06.
 
CaptWiggum said:
As an avid collector, I have an interest in the subject of detecting counterfeit knives.
The easiest method is to use an accurate scale to weigh the knife in grams. Then lookup the knife on the Spyderco website, which lists the weight in grams of the genuine knife.

Or, if the original and sample knives have one or two Ti scales, the counterfeit will usually have stainless steel, aluminum, or some cheap alloy scales in substitution. Measure the density of the scales. If they are clearly _not_ titanium, then it is proven counterfeit. If they are titanium, it does not prove it’s genuine, but the probability goes way up.

To calculate the density, g/cm^3, remove the scales, and use a graduated cylinder of water to precisely measure its volume in cm^3. (The change in water level when the scales are added to the cylinder; they must be completely submerged). Then remove and dry the scales and weigh them in grams. Divide g/cm^3 to get the density value.

Ti knife scales are made using Ti 6Al-4V (aka, Grade 5 or TC4), which has a density of 4.43 - 4.51 g/cm^3. Aluminum is 2.7, and Stainless Steel 7.85 - 8.06.
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Or you can bust out the kitchen scale 😉
 
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