How to tie a Round Sinnet lanyard.

I know this is an old post but I was using it as my guide.

So does anybody have the original pictures and direction on this or the square sinnet knot?

Thanks
 
I don't have the original images, but I found another source for lanyards/knots (and a reminder of summer camp when I was a wee lad) at http://www.cam.com/gimp/ . The first two knots (barrel and box) are the same as the round and square sinnets you mentioned, and are easily enough done with paracord. Tightening the barrel knots as much as I could, I ended up with a lanyard about 1/2-inch thick. Might be better with 3mm cord.

Another site with a bunch of sinnets is http://members.chello.nl/a.vandersalm/knots7.htm#rondekroon . The "Solomon" and "Bannister" bars on that site are the same as the "Cobra" and "Twisted Cobra" on the first site, and make an interesting and very grippable lanyard fob.

Hope this helps.
 
I'm pleased to see there are other knot-heads out there!

I seldom use a lanyard in daily carry, but when biking or hiking you are much less likely to lose a knife if the knife is in the pocket with just the lanyard knot exposed. I lost an early Seki-made Endura while biking due to clip-slip.

I tie up a 'monkey fist' on one end of a length of paracord, and simply fuse the knife-end of the line. Thread the fused-end through the lanyard hole and use your favorite stopper knot when you attach it to the knife. There are probably good snap-clips for the knife end, but I've never used them.

Just leave the 'monkey fist' exposed for quick retrieval of the knife. Works for me.
 
Thanks for those great Knots websites, Esav. Just what I have been looking for! :)
 
gud4u,

I use the monkey paw too but I use one of the loops from the body of the knot to thread thru the lanyard hole. I bury the loose ends in the knot. It leaves a tidy looking lanyard with no loose ends and it only takes a little longer than a regular monkey paw.

Rob
 
Dr. Nick,

I quite agree, but I only use the lanyard when biking and remove it when I return - to use again with whatever knife I take with me on the next outing.

I think I'll research a bit for snap-clips suitable for attaching to knife lanyard holes. A splice to the clip would be a more elegant solution.

Nice chatting with another knot-head!
 
I´ve also used the monkey fist with the ends all inside the knot, after looping through the lanyard hole I work the other end out of the knot and replace it with the one out of the lanyard hole, after a few turns it fits in tight, I use a home made aluminum fid with one end pointy and the other hollow and threaded inside so the cord can be melted and screwed in to use as a needle. Sometimes I tie a lanyard (diamond) knot or a Mathew Walker close to the lanyard hole so that the lanyard doesn´t move around, or I place a bead between the handle and the monkey fist.

In some knives I´ve tied small lanyards that don´t get much in the way and can easily attach a longer lanyard to it with some kind of clip or small carabiner, I find these at shops that sell supplies for making luggage, handbags, etc..

I´ve done some lanyards and fobs with star knots and little lump knots, this have to be done with thin cord or they come out much too bulky.

Nice to see there are some more KnotKnuts around, do you guys carry a rigging knife like I sometimes do?, my favorite is a Currey lockspike bosun from Sheffield.
 
Thanks for all the websites and suggestions.

Lat night I try the barrel & box knots suggested by arcanum and found they required 2 length of ropes, whereas the original sinnet lanyards only need 1.

So, did I read that wrong or is there another way to tie a sinnet lanyard?

Thanks
 
AAA,

A sinnet is really just a repeating series of the same knot, the box and barrel knots mentioned are what tiers call a four stranded crown sennit, that is, a series of four stranded crown knots.

You are probably thinking of a common knot used in macrame, which is made by making a series of square knots around a filler usually made from another two strands (or one strand folded over), this is also commonly tied in gimp or boondogle, check the cobra stich in the same sites that show the box and barrel.

There are many ways to tie a lanyard or fob and, unfortunately, a knot can be known by diferent names and diferent knots can be known by the same name, causing confusion.

If you take some time and look around the sites mentioned earlier on this thread you may find what you want, or maybe something that you like better, knot tying is a fun and interesting hobby.
 
AAA,
I ran into the same problem when I first tried a lanyard using the barrel knot/sinnet. What I did was thread one 24" length of paracord through the lanyard-hole in my knife, then put another length between the two strands of that cord, about an inch up from the knife. Fold the ends of the original cord over the new one, then weave the ends of the second cord over and through the first cord according to the directions for the barrel knot. Keep it loose for the first two "layers", and then you can tighten it up and keep going. It took me a few tries, but I ended up with a lanyard fob that my wife thought I'd bought. Finishing the sinnet is another matter. So far, all I've done is scorch/melt the ends into the center of the final crown.
 
Don Luis, You sound like me. In addition to using fids, you can use crochet hooks. They work pretty well for pulling the strands through the knot and they come in sizes to suit your needs.

I tie lanyards to all the knives I have that need them (and can accept them). I also put a knot or bead on there to keep the monkey paw from sliding around. I like the idea of a short lanyard you can use to attach a longer lanyard to, I'm going to start doing that, great idea.

I also carry a rigging knife around. Right now it's the Case. I also like the Camillus, it's a great knife for the money. At BLADE last year, I saw some Spyderco prototype rigging knives! How cool would that be? One handed blade opening and a lock?! I'm definitely in line for that one.

Later,

Rob
 
Originally posted by Dr. Nick
... you can use crochet hooks ...
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Yes, and also hemostats or a folded length of wire, tricks of the trade I guess.

... I also carry a rigging knife around. Right now it's the Case. I also like the Camillus ...
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I also have a Camillus, very good but much heavier and thicker than the Currey, I don´t always carry a rigging knife but I usually have with me a 5 or 6 mm crochet hook with the rear end made pointy to use as a marlin spike.

I hope we are not hijacking the thread ...
 
Don Luis,

I like the idea of the hook with the pointy end. I've been toying with the idea of drilling a hole in the marlinspike so I can use it like a sewing awl or even filing a hook on the end a la crochet hook.

You're probably right, we should talk knots somewhere else ;)

Later,

Rob
 
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