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OK, after much more research I have found some interesting things.
The model was indeed made before Remington made the buy out (or at least apparent buy out), pre WW2, HOWEVER it was also made durring WW2 with the same stamp on the tang (which only adds to the confusion since there won't be any distinguishing marks making the original and the reproduction as easy to tell apart) I earlier stated that the remington version did not have that symbol inbetween the RH and the 36, I stand corrected.
The ones KNOWN to be the WW2 version APPEAR to be machined, as opposed to hand forged and polished as the originals were. Also, the known WW2 versions I have seen all have a modification to the blade, the back of the blade again appears to have been machined to make the blade is much more more Bowie/combat style, and some were blackened.
This modification definately looks factory as opposed to a user mod. I'm thinking this MIGHT just be a good way to tell them apart, but I can't be certain about that yet.
I have seen ALLOT more that LOOK like what are probably the WW2 version as opposed to those that look like what's probably the original version.
This might also further explain why I have heard so much that the pre Remington ones were harder to sharpen. They obviously were not made they same way and it's doubtfull they were made with the same steel (although it may use an alloy steel in some ways similar).
It would also explain why they appear to be in so much better condition, especialy the stacked leather in the handle. I also suspect that they were made FOR Remington pre buyout, but that's just a hunch. Alternatively, what I and quite a few other poeple might have been confused about is that the model was always made durring Remingtons ownership, just not advertised as such till they came out with the WW2 version of the model. That's also possible.
It's also important to understand that the knife is being reproduced and faked today, when I say WW2 version, I mean legitimate and genuine WW2 era knife using an older model and nomenclature, not a modern reproduction or fake.
One of the better sites is http://www.quanonline.com/military/military_reference/fighting_knives/fightingknife.php
Allot of the information out there at first seems to contradict itself, I have not found any one site that tells everything about this particular case yet.
(I have not found the adds boasting diamond dust being used to make the steel yet either, but something may yet come up.)
However if you keep in mind that the model was made over a period of years and reproduced durring WW2 as a combat knife, then it starts to make more sense and explains the apparent contradictions.
The model was indeed made before Remington made the buy out (or at least apparent buy out), pre WW2, HOWEVER it was also made durring WW2 with the same stamp on the tang (which only adds to the confusion since there won't be any distinguishing marks making the original and the reproduction as easy to tell apart) I earlier stated that the remington version did not have that symbol inbetween the RH and the 36, I stand corrected.
The ones KNOWN to be the WW2 version APPEAR to be machined, as opposed to hand forged and polished as the originals were. Also, the known WW2 versions I have seen all have a modification to the blade, the back of the blade again appears to have been machined to make the blade is much more more Bowie/combat style, and some were blackened.
This modification definately looks factory as opposed to a user mod. I'm thinking this MIGHT just be a good way to tell them apart, but I can't be certain about that yet.
I have seen ALLOT more that LOOK like what are probably the WW2 version as opposed to those that look like what's probably the original version.
This might also further explain why I have heard so much that the pre Remington ones were harder to sharpen. They obviously were not made they same way and it's doubtfull they were made with the same steel (although it may use an alloy steel in some ways similar).
It would also explain why they appear to be in so much better condition, especialy the stacked leather in the handle. I also suspect that they were made FOR Remington pre buyout, but that's just a hunch. Alternatively, what I and quite a few other poeple might have been confused about is that the model was always made durring Remingtons ownership, just not advertised as such till they came out with the WW2 version of the model. That's also possible.
It's also important to understand that the knife is being reproduced and faked today, when I say WW2 version, I mean legitimate and genuine WW2 era knife using an older model and nomenclature, not a modern reproduction or fake.
One of the better sites is http://www.quanonline.com/military/military_reference/fighting_knives/fightingknife.php
Allot of the information out there at first seems to contradict itself, I have not found any one site that tells everything about this particular case yet.
(I have not found the adds boasting diamond dust being used to make the steel yet either, but something may yet come up.)
However if you keep in mind that the model was made over a period of years and reproduced durring WW2 as a combat knife, then it starts to make more sense and explains the apparent contradictions.
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