I almost made it...

Codger_64

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...away from the Friday fleamarket without spending a dime. Almost.

I love looking at the sheer quantity of oddball antique items at these outdoor fleamarkets. A lot of junk freshly off the boat from China as well. I've made it a habit to look into boxes, under tables, in the bottom of piles. Sometimes treasure really is buried.

I must say that I would not have gotten off lightly if I had my new home office built. I have in mind finishing and decorating it in 1940's style, and everywhere I turned was some item, utilitarian or decorative, which fit that style in my mind.

The knives were everywhere, mostly as you might expect, either those rare and desirable Case knives, or imported junk from the middle or far East. I flipped a few over out of curiosity just to see where they were made, but invariably walked on while ignoring the purveyor's banter, at most giving them a nod and a friendly smile. Several times I was briefly fooled into picking up and examining an apparent Schrade only to find a Chirade.

I had almost made the circuit of the sixty or so vendors when I spied a knife roll. Opened it. Case. Flipped the divider. Case. Again. The last section held some older junk knives and... a familiar 3OT.

"How much?" "Mfff...." "Excuse me?" (I am nearly deaf). "Seventeen dollars". "O.K."

The seller winced slightly, his "tell" that he had just made a mistake and should have asked more. All the while I was mentally half congratulating myself and half kicking myself for not dickering over the asking price. But... I know my Schrades fairly well, and decided not to risk giving him time to backpeddle and up the price.

I dropped the knife into my pocket and forked over the dollars. I didn't take it back out to look at it until I was well down the highway headed home. I'm sure most of you have done this only to be smacked between the eyes with "buyer's remorse" that you didn't look more closely before concluding a purchase.

But... Uncle Henry was with me this time and the knife was pure-dee mint. Not a scratch on the bolsters, no ground mark or whetstoned blade. Fit and function would have passed even Henry's inspection, and it may well have before it left the factory and began it's journey from Ellenville to...??? Along the way it lost it's box or clam pack and papers, so how it survived out in the world without even a hint of handling marks I haven't a clue.

The 3OT Bearhead (you just have to know that Henry named this one) was first cataloged in 1986 and last appeared in 2004. It always had a Schrade+ stainless drop point blade and at 3" closed fit the niche between it's smaller cousin the LB-1 Cub (1986-96) and the larger 5OT Bruin (1987-98). It's Uncle Henry equivilent was the LB-3 Brown Bear (1982-95). At only 1.5 ounces and relatively flat profile, it would fit very unobtrusively in the pocket for daily carry if I were so inclined. It's 2 3/16" blade would take care of a lot of smaller tasks.

The only similar sized and shaped Schrade lockback which springs to mind is the Lightweight series Zytel handled SP2 Raider (1989-2004) also at 3" closed.

Now, at $17 was it a deal? Using the inflation calculator and the last MSRP of $35.45, today's MSRP would have been $38.62. The $17 spent to acquire it yesterday is nearly the same as the suggested wholesale in 2004, which when adjusted for inflation would be $19.01. So I bought it for less than original suggested wholesale. Mr. Levine's method of third highest offer can't be applied. But... do any of you think it is worth less than I paid?

Michael
 
Codger,
I like the 3OT, and personally think you got a great deal on it!:thumbup: I would have grabbed it without haggling too at that price.

Dave
 
:thumbup:Heck yes I'd been on that like a duck on a June Bug!1:D:p

Watched a 5OT bearhead carbon blade go for $.99:eek: on the auction site BUT couldn't get myself to pay $10.00:eek: for shipping :confused:WTHeck!!?
 
Well, I certainly didn't need it, so that doesn't enter into the equation. I have several of them stashed away. I seem to always find one knife each time I go to this particular fleamarket. And later regret not buying some second knife that caught my eye. Invariably, those second knives are never there the next time I go.

Most of these sellers aren't hometown folks, but either modern day "gypsys" who travel with a hodge-podge of tarped open trailers a wide circuit of flea markets here in the mid-South, or are snowbirds working their way South toward Florida for the winter in their jam-packed RVs. Some of them are there every time, but most aren't.

The "second knife" this time wasn't a knife, but a Keen-Kutter sign, one of those stamped embossed metal ones. I was leary of the guy because he had a wide variety of signs, most newly minted but banged up and allowed to rust, indicating "age". Before I ever even heard of Bernard Levine I knew his favorite axioms, by different wording, that "Condition is only an indicator of condition, not age", and "read the sign, not what it says", and... "buy the sign, not the story"..

Michael

but if that sign is there the next time I go back, I may give it a second look. :p
 
Michael, I think as quickly as the price quote came out of the vendor's mouth, you knew it was a done deal. Based on the short conversation's we've had relating to my question's I've had on my Schrade purchases ,you know how few and far between those knives, with the blade and bolster condition as clean as you stated, are getting to be. $17.00 is not bad at all. Cosmeticaly cleaning the handle, along with the blade and bolster condition being in pur-dee good shape to begin with, it sounds to me you did quite all-right. Dale H.:thumbup:
 
Dale, I forgot to mention the handle condition? Mint and clean as a baby's cheek as well with no pocket wear or rub marks. The Delrin doesn't need cleaning.

I guess it is an addiction after all. How many knives does a man need? Ten? A hundred? A thousand? How many do I have? I haven't counted. I'm actually afraid to. Well into the hundreds I am sure. In fact, just with the "big four", I have well over a hundred. Plus another one today. And I am still waiting for that last pre-1939 Camillus Sportsman hunting knife to arrive.

Ain't it fun though?:D

PS- Big Four? LB-7, 15OT, 152OT, 165OT.... Schrade's big sellers.
 
...and only us knife lovers can appreciate everything you just said from the heart....arent we a weird mob?? We just got ourselves a Caravan ..I think you blokes call it a Trailer and my wife wants to do the "big one" now before I die <shes' a fair bit younger than me!> which in Aussie is a trip right around Australian Coastline..its got solar power shower toilet etc and you could last up to a week in the Australian bush without 'roughing' it or getting near an electric power plug.....anyways the point of all this is my wife is hinting ....nay telling...nay demanding ... 2000 Schrades is now definately toooo many and I am not allowed to bring them all with us <visions of Lucille Ball in the Long Long Trailer!....anyway she's a lot bigger and more intimidating than me. I'm only 6' and 18 stone and and she's 5'1" and about 7 stone wringing wet>!!..and perhaps I should unload some of me little darlinks.....perhaps I could set up a stall at our Aussie markets at each place we land....and fill the Oz bush with USA Schrades and give them Jackeroos <Aussie Cowboys> and Jilleroos <Aussie Cowgirls> some cultural learnin about quality knives....Michael you have set me thinking mate.....Great Story as usual...Hoo Roo
 
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Michael, It is an addiction! The wife is away for "the sister's" weekend (youngest sister's 50th) so off to the flea market I went. I struggled with myself turning down a Schrade and a nice Kutmaster.Have both but sales were slow and vendors were dealing. I actually didn't buy either one, but then I had used my allowance this past thursday purchasing a very nice Western fixed blade and sheath. Didn't need it either, but the situation was similar to yours. Blade is unmarked (sweetly so)handle is clean (no chips,nicks) and the pommel is tight. So rarely does the situation like that fall in my lap, I just simply couldn't not buy it.$25.00 for the knife and original sheath and i never hesitated pulling the money out of my pocket. Congratulations on your new knife. Dale H.:thumbup:
 
How many knives does a man need? Ten? A hundred? A thousand? .

One of my sons summed it up when my mother in law asked if he had too many knives when he was about 7 and we had just made the pilgrimage to SMKW. He looked up and said, "they don"t make that many." :D
 
:thumbup:Heck yes I'd been on that like a duck on a June Bug!1:D:p

Watched a 5OT bearhead carbon blade go for $.99:eek: on the auction site BUT couldn't get myself to pay $10.00:eek: for shipping :confused:WTHeck!!?

Good to know there are still men that have solid principles.

Maybe a little hard to understand why people jack up shipping. Is it to avoid Ebay fees, or is it so people won't bid on items, because of stubborn attitudes about shipping prices? A real head scratcher.
 
It took me about two years of collecting to convince myself I did not have to buy every knife I thought was "a good deal".
 
Michael, surely your question re worth $17 ? is rhetorical ?
a well made, slim (almost Gentleman's knife) knife that will cut "above it's weight", and will outlast you, for the price of a good lunch or cheap dinner, worth it ?
the gentleman deserved $17 and a tip on top of that !
it is odd that even though we deeply appreciate and value knives, we all try, to varying degrees, to deny the seller it's relative worth. it would be more understandable if people who did NOT like knives, took this stance.
Larry, i live in southern B.C. not too far from the USA border, yet you almost never see a Schrade knife here (or any other pocket knife).
so my project is "Arming Canadians" (well, only doing south-central B.C. so far), by giving away a good 'ol Schrade USA knife, all tuned up and shaving sharp, to any friend who will accept one.
helps keep the collection from filling every room in the house and helps keep them invading Yanks from gettin' our water. previously we only had hockey sticks.
roland
 
The price seems fair to me, although you mentioned his deliberation after blurting out the 17.00 dollars. A lot of flea markets around my area are asking a lot more even for knives that have been used, coverd in patina, sharpened and not so attractive. So the purchase price on the 30T seems like an excellent deal. Good to hear!

Russell
 
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