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I thought I bought a long sought after Ocelot from a unnamed dealer. I placed the order then received an email confirmation. Several hours later the dealer sent me another email saying he would not fulfill the order because of I live in NY State and he sited the knife debacle in NY City.
As a resident of NY State (not New York City) I wanted to raise this subject again as I just wrote an email that I thought many of you would want to see.
Further, if you live anywhere in New York State and you buy knives you may have found that many Internet dealers and Knife Companies that you used to be able to buy from are running scared (for logical reasons) and will no longer ship to you even though you live outside of New York City.
Please take the time and write some kind of letter to these supposed keepers of the law in NYC. I was able to attain their info via akti.org They are:
The Chief Assistant District Attorney in charge supervising this case is Daniel R Alonso. His email is: alonsod@dany.nyc.gov
Assistant District Attorneys involved in the investigation:
Dan M. Rather – ratherd@dany.nyc.gov
Hilary Rosenburg – rosenburgh@dany.nyc.gov
Mike Kitsis – kitsism@dany.nyc.gov
District Attorney of New York County (Manhattan) – Cyrus R. Vance Jr. – vancec@dany.nyc.gov
My Letter...
Dear Mr. Vance and Mr Alonso:
As a citizen of New York State and the city of Eastchester, NY, I object to the methods used in the recent confiscations of knives from legitimate New York businesses and law-abiding citizens.
I am a frequent visitor of Manhattan and the four other boroughs of the City of New York as my Mother lives in The Bronx and Daughter lives in Manhattan and I have friends I visit in the rest of the city.
I STRONGLY object to your misinterpretation of the knife laws. For over forty years I lived in New York City or visit relatives and friends and have always carried a legal locking pocket knife. I have used it for opening boxes, cutting paper, cutting apples, but never for committing a crime. Your interpretation of the law will force me to leave my pocket knife at home and instead carry a large exposed Bowie style knife of four to six inches in length. Did you want that?
By doing what is described below you leave me no alternative to look further into the law and find what is legal to carry until you decide to pronounce it illegal.
Demanding “contributions” in exchange for avoiding prosecution is unacceptable behavior for elected officials and inappropriate use of government resources. Asking for sales figures and other confidential business information is an infringement beyond government authority. If actual crimes are committed the role of government should be to punish the criminal, not collect money to balance shortfalls in budgeting or create new government programs.
Retail businesses have been forced to make a decision to “contribute” to avoid costly and lengthy trials for selling a legitimate product and valuable tools available throughout the rest of the state of New York and the entire United States.
Your office has interpreted “gravity” knife as ANY folding knife which can be opened with one hand – no matter how difficult. The knives you have called illegal gravity knives are used daily in activities including hunting, fishing, camping and other outdoor activities as well as by electricians, construction workers and emergency personnel. These are NOT opened by gravity and your interpretation is a misunderstanding of knife design mechanisms.
Even the New York State legislature recognized the utility of gravity knives by including the exemption for their possession in §265.20(6) for legitimate hunting and fishing use.
I urge your office to stop this campaign against honest New York businesses who are being discouraged from doing business in New York. I will be exercising my right to vote to ensure that my individual freedoms are protected.
Sincerely,
Joe (on this post, last name left out on purpose)
As a resident of NY State (not New York City) I wanted to raise this subject again as I just wrote an email that I thought many of you would want to see.
Further, if you live anywhere in New York State and you buy knives you may have found that many Internet dealers and Knife Companies that you used to be able to buy from are running scared (for logical reasons) and will no longer ship to you even though you live outside of New York City.
Please take the time and write some kind of letter to these supposed keepers of the law in NYC. I was able to attain their info via akti.org They are:
The Chief Assistant District Attorney in charge supervising this case is Daniel R Alonso. His email is: alonsod@dany.nyc.gov
Assistant District Attorneys involved in the investigation:
Dan M. Rather – ratherd@dany.nyc.gov
Hilary Rosenburg – rosenburgh@dany.nyc.gov
Mike Kitsis – kitsism@dany.nyc.gov
District Attorney of New York County (Manhattan) – Cyrus R. Vance Jr. – vancec@dany.nyc.gov
My Letter...
Dear Mr. Vance and Mr Alonso:
As a citizen of New York State and the city of Eastchester, NY, I object to the methods used in the recent confiscations of knives from legitimate New York businesses and law-abiding citizens.
I am a frequent visitor of Manhattan and the four other boroughs of the City of New York as my Mother lives in The Bronx and Daughter lives in Manhattan and I have friends I visit in the rest of the city.
I STRONGLY object to your misinterpretation of the knife laws. For over forty years I lived in New York City or visit relatives and friends and have always carried a legal locking pocket knife. I have used it for opening boxes, cutting paper, cutting apples, but never for committing a crime. Your interpretation of the law will force me to leave my pocket knife at home and instead carry a large exposed Bowie style knife of four to six inches in length. Did you want that?
By doing what is described below you leave me no alternative to look further into the law and find what is legal to carry until you decide to pronounce it illegal.
Demanding “contributions” in exchange for avoiding prosecution is unacceptable behavior for elected officials and inappropriate use of government resources. Asking for sales figures and other confidential business information is an infringement beyond government authority. If actual crimes are committed the role of government should be to punish the criminal, not collect money to balance shortfalls in budgeting or create new government programs.
Retail businesses have been forced to make a decision to “contribute” to avoid costly and lengthy trials for selling a legitimate product and valuable tools available throughout the rest of the state of New York and the entire United States.
Your office has interpreted “gravity” knife as ANY folding knife which can be opened with one hand – no matter how difficult. The knives you have called illegal gravity knives are used daily in activities including hunting, fishing, camping and other outdoor activities as well as by electricians, construction workers and emergency personnel. These are NOT opened by gravity and your interpretation is a misunderstanding of knife design mechanisms.
Even the New York State legislature recognized the utility of gravity knives by including the exemption for their possession in §265.20(6) for legitimate hunting and fishing use.
I urge your office to stop this campaign against honest New York businesses who are being discouraged from doing business in New York. I will be exercising my right to vote to ensure that my individual freedoms are protected.
Sincerely,
Joe (on this post, last name left out on purpose)
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