I bet the Kamis could make a pretty decent version of this

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This is the famous 'Tracker' knife. One made by Beck was used in the movie 'The Hunted'. Tom Brown at his survival schools sells and promotes the ones made by TOPS Knives. The Jensen Evolution is an Australian derivative of the knife.

I bet the Kamis could make a pretty good version of this knife. I'd certainly buy one.

specs (TOPS version)
Length Overall: 11 7/8"
Foward Curved Blade Length: 4 1/4"
Draw Knife Length: 2 1/8"
Saw: 2 1/2"
Thickness Blade: 1/4"
Weight: 1 lb 12 oz
Blade Steel: 1095 High Carbon Alloy Rc58

specs (Beck Version)
Length Overall: 12 1/4"
Length Blade Overall: 6 1/4"
Foward Curved Blade Length: 3 3/4"
Draw Knife Length: 2"
Gut Hook: 1/2"
Saw: 2 3/4"
Thickness Blade: 1/4?
Weight: 1 lb 12 oz
Blade Steel: Starret 01 high carbon tool steel


Tops LINK LINK2
TrackerKnife.JPG


Beck LINK
wsk_w_sheath.jpg


Jensen LINK
EVO.jpg
 
i bet! A reground BDC or "Pen Knife" could look very similar. They would need to harden the spine a bit more to make the saw more utilitarian but other than that...
 
Actually this knife design is patented and Uncle Bill would likely get sued if they produced this and sold it.
 
Cabbit said:
Actually this knife design is patented and Uncle Bill would likely get sued if they produced this and sold it.
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If you change it a certain % then it's a new style and the patent no longer applies. Patents are only good for a certain number of years anyway, and Beck has been making that knife since the 1980's. This is probably why TOPS is now making a version.

I'm not talking about an exact copy, but something along those general lines.
 
Mrostov-while I think it might turn out pretty well, there are already three versions of the same knife. I don't know if the kamis would be able to improve on the existing design, and I don't know if the world really needs yet another Tracker :) . Personally, though, I don't see what any of those knives could do that your modified sawback Bura blade couldn't. I think it would be really interesting to send your knife, or a wooden model of it, back to the kamis as an inspiration for a khukuri-based survival blade. That said, the Beck version of the Tracker is one fine looking knife. It's really grown on me since the first time I saw it.

--Josh
 
The biggest drawback to the Tracker knives is price. The TOPS is $300 and the Beck is about $400. I hear tell the Beck is the nicer one to have.

If the Kamis made one, it'd probably be about $100 or so.

A Tracker style knife was what I was aiming for with my PK. A zoomed up photo of the Beck was what I studied for the pattern of the saw I put on my PK.

The PK is a wonderful blade design and size for both fieldcraft and skinning/butcher game. My biggest complaint with it is that it originally comes with a handle sized for a midget. But, thanks to 'cho creep', there's some extra real estate to play with. Once I get this prototype dialed in I might a get couple more PK's and make some more 'PK Trackers'.

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Just for plain curiousity....I would support a project like this. I think it would be more like $125-150 for it - because of the extra attention required.

Why not make it $150 and have it made with "fancy wood"?



Bill - could you email the 2nd picture to Nepal as part of the recent request for variants?



p.s. the copyright is not an issue. The tracker design has been around longer than Beck (all respect to Dave).
 
God, those are ugly! I'll take a 14" BDC over one of those, anyday!

Now, that little hunter in the second pic, though...:)

John
 
What Spectre said.

And cutting a bunch of notches into the spine of a blade does NOT make a real saw. It makes a useless piece of crap with sharp points on the spinethat contribute all the added hazards of a saw but little of actual utility of a genuine saw. Saws possess kerf and fleam, an object without them ain't a proper saw.

As far as I've seen the Beck version has fleam, but no kerf.
One out of two, but kerf is what every saw has. The Tops version has neither. Just about the cheapest saw you will find at Walmart has kerf. Why anyone would want a knife to be a ripsaw (no fleam) entirely eludes me.

I dont't get it. Buy a cheap folding pruning saw Or SAK with a saw and toss it in the bag next to a Penknife that doesn't have that limiting and stupid discontinuity on the cutting edge.

To me, this thing appears to follow the school of athletic shoes, the uglier, and most single minded it is, the better.

Blech.

That's not my I idea of a general purpose knife to meet the varied needs of survival.

The little one, yes that's a keeper, and I like it.

YMMV
 
I've found a saw in the back of a wilderness trekking knife to be rather handy. It's mainly for trimming stuff like the ends of poles, cutting notches,scoring things, wood working, etc. Sometimes you just have your knife and a small saw like that is pretty handy to have.

The saw on the back of mine and on the Beck (what I copied mine off of) is the same pyramid tooth pattern as you find on a Swiss Army Knife, Leatherman Tool, new style Gerber folding saw, etc. It's a very good saw tooth style for light, fast, smaller jobs.
 
I had a Glock 17L(ongslide). UGGGLY!!! Only thing I liked about it was the nightsights. UGGGLY!!!

That was back in the days you could take a G17 with 17 round mag and plus 2 baseplate for 19+1 capacity into California. UGGGLY!!!

Long since dumped it. UGGGLY!!!

Had a trigger pull like a cap pistol ( apologies to cap pistol ). UGGGLY!!!

I still have that pretty, shiny, nickeled, 39-2 S&W 9mm that's never failed to feed or eject and that somehow just hits everything I point it at. Did I mention I like pretty, shiny guns?

Why do I think of Glocks when I see a Tracker type knife? :barf: :barf: :barf:
 
I am a big fan of Glocks (as well as 1911's)

I have owned several Glocks since the '80's when they were introduced in the USA. Never had a problem. Always fed and fired. And I have ran thousands of rounds through them. The 19 is my all around favorite. Mag capacity is 17 with the plus 2 butt extension (it will also accept the 17 high cap mags) plus 1 in the pipe. Corbon 115 HP does the trick. And very accurate.
 
I'd pass on a Tracker model, but the little hunter is sweet...a lot like a JKW.
 
I'm not a big fan of the Tracker either. I don't think its a bad knife at all, nor do i think that it is all that ugly. However, i rarely need a saw when i'm out in the field, and if i do then i ALWAYS have either a Swiss Champ or my Supertool with me at all times. I'd much rather keep the tools that i have with me anyway and have a knife with a functional flat back knife for a hammer. You keep the Tracker and I'll stick with my AK bowie or PK. Would be interesting to see what the kamis come up with, though:)


~Jake
 
We ndns never had no saws and got along just fine. Actually I was thinking about a similar topic earlier this morning but it's for another thread if I can get my thoughts straight.:D ;)


The Tracker would be a damned hard knife to sharpen, even for me!:rolleyes: :grumpy:
 
As much as I love the 1911, my ugly Glock 17 eventually grew on me. The tracker never will. It just feels too gimmicky to me.
 
looks very much like a close copy of one of Bob Dozier's knives. I often carry his K-7 (slim outdoorsman) in its horizontal-carry kydex sheath, and it's a honey of a knife :) . Check out this link and click on the hunting button. At $185 it's reasonably priced for a made-in-USA product.
 
....I agree. And Bob's design is itself a "Loveless" design - a timeless classic.
 
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