Hi, all, new guy here. Have owned Knives all my life, but only recently learned how to sharpen properly. I remember my old dad telling me about the "burr", but I didn't really get it right till I read a few threads here. What helped me the most was getting a 10x magnifier so that I could actually see the edge, (or lack of one). Some of my knives were pretty rough, but they are ok now. sure is a satisfying feeling finally being able to get a decent edge on them.