I hate to even post this - but did anyone see Man/Woman/Wild - friction fire?

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Okay - I am no expert - and I should barely even be talking... but...

If anyone just saw Mr. Hawke and his wife make fire with a Bow Drill?

He had his wife hold the top rock - he used a small stick for a bow - and then proceeded to have some tragic form (fast small strokes - erratic). Then they allowed the spindle simply fly out without care (which almost dispersed the coal) and then had a tragic tinder bundle 'prepared' to put it in.

Okay - okay - he got fire (I think - who knows) and he told how he hates to make fire that way.

We can tell Mr. Hawke... we can tell...


TF
 
Talfuchre said:
Okay - I am no expert - and I should barely even be talking... but...

If anyone just saw Mr. Hawke and his wife make fire with a Bow Drill?

He had his wife hold the top rock - he used a small stick for a bow - and then proceeded to have some tragic form (fast small strokes - erratic). Then they allowed the spindle simply fly out without care (which almost dispersed the coal) and then had a tragic tinder bundle 'prepared' to put it in.

Okay - okay - he got fire (I think - who knows) and he told how he hates to make fire that way.

We can tell Mr. Hawke... we can tell...


TF
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Didn't see it...I've been outside with Alayana most of the day building her club house / swing set thing and worked on it past dark. But now I wish I had seen it, sounds like it was hilarious!
 
Yeah, it took them four tries. But anyone who can make fire with a stick is doing pretty good in my book.

More important, at least they figured out a way to peel off their clothes at the beginning of the episode.
 
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I totally agree that they GOT fire. I know... I know.... I just work my butt off to get fire and practice a lot. I think in anything but good dry wood in a dry situation and he would not have fire.

TF
 
Yeah, I'm watching it now TF. I noticed the technique wasn't the best and they really didn't have a very viable tinder bundle. Not sure if anything was edited, but it does show that primative methods are not simple and failure is quite common....

powernoodle said:
Yeah, it took them four tries. But anyone who can make fire with a stick is doing pretty good in my book.

More important, at least they figured out a way to peel of their clothes at the beginning of the episode.
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That was my thoughts:D

ROCK6
 
I'm beginning to think those SAS guys aren't really skilled at friction fire. Here's a quote:

"Do not expect to make a fire instantly (bow and drill); the drill will need to 'bed' itself into the baseboard and this can only be achieved after hours of constant drilling." Page 59 - SAS Encyclopedia of Survival, Barry Davies, Virgin Publishing, 1999, ISBN# 1-85227-866-8

If I had to drill for hours, I wouldn't have to worry about a fire ............:(

Doc
 
Saw it. I liked the two man bow drill thingy. That does seem like it would make it easier. The beginning of the episode was the best part though. :D
 
DOC-CANADA said:
I'm beginning to think those SAS guys aren't really skilled at friction fire. Here's a quote:

"Do not expect to make a fire instantly (bow and drill); the drill will need to 'bed' itself into the baseboard and this can only be achieved after hours of constant drilling." Page 59 - SAS Encyclopedia of Survival, Barry Davies, Virgin Publishing, 1999, ISBN# 1-85227-866-8

If I had to drill for hours, I wouldn't have to worry about a fire ............:(

Doc
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Hours?

Hmmm....maybe they are referring to doing it when weak from exhaustion or trying to make a hearth-board from Ipe or something....
 
Blais said:
You all saw his knife, did you think his bow drill would look better?
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Saying his name too fast, watching him making fires, and that sharpened thing he designed is enough to make me chuckle whenever I hear anyone talking about him. At least he got it started....assuming there wasn't some camera magic used. :rolleyes:

Kyle.
 
It is always harder to start a primitive fire when your wife, friends or children are watching. I can only imagine her helping. Still, they did good to not make it seem too easy.
 
ROCK6 said:
Yeah, I'm watching it now TF. I noticed the technique wasn't the best and they really didn't have a very viable tinder bundle. Not sure if anything was edited, but it does show that primative methods are not simple and failure is quite common....



That was my thoughts:D

ROCK6
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Agree with this. I've failed many, many more times that I have succeeded.
 
insomnia said:
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Saying his name too fast, watching him making fires, and that sharpened thing he designed is enough to make me chuckle whenever I hear anyone talking about him. At least he got it started....assuming there wasn't some camera magic used. :rolleyes:

Kyle.
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I don't understand. What's so funny about saying (out loud), "I'm surprised it took so long for Myke Hawke to make fire - especially with all the friction involved. What's wrong with Myke Hawke"?

That's not FUNNY!

:D
 
rip off all the cloth and rub stick wildly and vigorously with assistance of helper.

maybe going the wrong way, but the rating of this show will climb.



:jerkit:
 
I liked the farmer's market spread they had there after gathering food. All that stuff looked really plentiful, so I bet they could have gathered that much by themselves in a short period of time.

I think too many people try to learn something from the show. Do you learn something when you watch 99% of the rest of TV? Think of it as entertainment and you will have a lot better experience. If you do actually learn a new technique, then that is just a bonus.
 
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