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AncientSUL

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Hello,

Thank you all for responding. I appreciate your advice. I will do my best of furfill my part of the agreement. I hope I can work things out. Thank you.


Liong
 
Litigate! Or worse yet, post his name here and he'll never need to worry about making another knife - 'cause no one likes to see a customer getting jerked around. Perhaps it is because it was a run of knives, not a single knife that has 'cause his though process to get blurred. Perhaps it is the $$$ in front of his eyes - if you raise the cost $50 on 10 knives for example that'd be an extra $500! If he won't settle it in private, maybe it'll just have to be settled here.

~Mitch
 
Liong, I am sorry to hear that you are having problems with the knife. Hopefully the maker will change his mind and make things right.
michael
 
An unfortunate situation.

Do you have an order/contract in writing with the specifications and pricing spelled out.

Talking with the maker more is probably the best bet and unfortunately sometimes in life both sides have to compromise in such situations.

There is always the option to litigate but it could be expensive (esp if out of state), the amount of damages you might be able to collect could be small, and worst of all you could LOSE! You will have to decide if the expense/hassle of proceeding with a legal remedy is worth it.

There is always the "court of public opinion" as well.....


Best wishes.
 
Sadly.., it sounds like time for a "Good, Bad, & Ugly" post on this guy. Hope it works out Liong...


"Hunters seek what they [WANT].., Seekers hunt what they [NEED]"
 
I feel your frustration. All these answers are correct, but you will not get much out of it in the long run, other than more negative energy spent than it is worth.

Since you have implied that you want this knife to resell anyway, my advice is to call him back, politely thank him for what he has done, pay his fee, and when you receive your knife, bid him a farewell. You don't want that knife now anyway! I don't enjoy ANY knife that doesn't represent the good integrity of the maker. This knife will always make you feel ambivalent at best, and angry at worst.

Write up a good ad and sell it here or on eBay and be done with it. Use this as a 'learning experience'. :barf:

This is not so much caving in, as much as just getting on with it. It's gonna get ugly any other way. Is it worth it?? Your call.

Coop
 
This probably should go to GBU. It sounds like a very unfortuntate situation. Litigation is not going to be the answer. When you end up paying an attorney $350-$400/hr, litigation does not pay unless you are dealing with extremely large money issues.

You should try to work this out with the maker and take it as a very hard-earned lesson.

Fortunately,problems like this are rare. Most makers are really "stand-up" type people, and will go the extra mile to avoid problems with customers.
 
Liong-
Sounds like a load of crap; If he was only making one knife would he have 'forgotten' to add in the other fees? If he placed the clip wrong how difficult would it be to drill/tap a few more holes? Sounds like hes just being difficult.
 
I have to scrub my earlier post on the matter.
Something just dawned on me Liong. I have a knife deal I screwed up on in my early days in the biz, like year before last. I caused some hard feeling by my actions. Fortunately, for me, it wasn't brought up publicly and since then I've had a second chance to make it as right as I can. It's not a perfect solution, but it has allowed me to regain some lost ground and we have a working relationship again.
Maybe your situation will have a fortunate outcome. ld
 
Liong,
I think Coop and knifenerd have it pegged pretty well. One of the biggest shames about this is that it happened and that it happened to such a good straight up person.

I thought about moving this to GB&U but have decided to leave it hear for a while at least.

I know you folks have heard it from me too many times, but it bears repeating for anyone who may not have heard it.
The Custom area is a little different from others in that a quality knife will sell itself. As a collector, when I see hype I stay away. One of the special things about custom knives is the makers in general. I enjoy the interactions and the trust on both sides. Many things are done on a handshake and they come about, when rare (at least to me) incidents like this happen, it affects a lot of people even though they are not involved. They are serious in that they do not want bad interactions to start seeping into their hobby or profession as the case may be.

We all need to be reminded how easy it can be to run into a potentially bad situation as collectors and makers. Mistakes will happen. It is how we deal with those mistakes that defines us within our little world.

I hope that things work out fairly for you and the maker in the end.
Regards,
Gus
a.k.a. Bastid

added later
Larry and I posted at the same time and I agree with him. A maker can not take the stance that was taken with you and expect to succeed with his peers or his customers in the long run and it takes integrity on both sides (with peers and collectors) to make it in the long run.
 
I THINK this might have been a project of more that ONE knife.

Liong has some great designs going, I hope he works it out so we can see the final results!!

Neil
 
Neil-

roger that, it is more than one knife. My point was that he wouldnt have forgotten on one, how could he forget on many??
 
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