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T. Erdelyi

T. Erdelyi

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I've said before that I carry and use any knife in my collection and I may have added the caveat that there were a couple or even maybe a few. Well I found one, the Bench Mark (before Gerber got their hands on the company) Rolox, a Viper Lightweight.

I bought this NIB and have never carried it or used it other than for a pic. I got it for a reasonable price and decided to buy it, hang on to it and sell it on some future date in the far future,

This is not for sale, I just found it and thought I'd share, the Rolox was a unique knife and certainly attractive.

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Please don't message me or contact me in regards to selling this knife as it is not for sale. (Sorry)
 
Ted, you lying sack of....

These are neat. There's one over on big auction site in stag that's very nice.

I don't blame you for not using it. It's one of those pieces that fits better as a collectible, being able to tell a part of the knife story down the road. You won't see a lot of these.

I Velitrius, patron saint of the Terrible Ironic Horde, forgive you your transgression. ;)
 
I have a knife that I feel similarly about. I take it out at Christmas, just here in the house, to cut open the tape on presents. Then, it goes back in the box.

It gets used. Just.... not that much....
 
T. Erdelyi said:
CRKT made a version called the Rollock, these are usually available on the auction site for about $30 last I looked. Certainly more affordable than the $200-$500 for the Bench Marks. :)

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Here's a quick video of it opening and closing.

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Cool, thanks for posting. Have never seem that type of action before and its very cool. Seems like a great way to cut the shit out of myself however.
 
T. Erdelyi said:
I've said before that I carry and use any knife in my collection and I may have added the caveat that there were a couple or even maybe a few. Well I found one, the Bench Mark (before Gerber got their hands on the company) Rolox, a Viper Lightweight.

I bought this NIB and have never carried it or used it other than for a pic. I got it for a reasonable price and decided to buy it, hang on to it and sell it on some future date in the far future,

This is not for sale, I just found it and thought I'd share, the Rolox was a unique knife and certainly attractive.

ZriTVaI.jpg
crz47ah.jpg
toSPvEJ.jpg
xSuqSrG.jpg


Please don't message me or contact me in regards to selling this knife as it is not for sale. (Sorry)
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What an awesome little knife. I love knives with unique devices.

What makes this knife so valuable? I always thought Benchmark was kind of a cheapo cutlery brand selling Chinese made knives.
 
Let me guess, the guy that designed the Edsel came out of retirement to design that one?

Am i close? /grin
 
never seen one before. thanks for posting and showing. very cool lock setup.
 
Lapedog said:
What an awesome little knife. I love knives with unique devices.

What makes this knife so valuable? I always thought Benchmark was kind of a cheapo cutlery brand selling Chinese made knives.
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Remember this crazy dude, he started the AO craze, yep, before Ken Onion did IIRC and held a ton of patents on new locking systems and other knife related patents. His name was Blackie Collins and he worked in the industry as a designer durin' the 80s. He was part of the Gerber Super Team of designers backed in the 80s and during Gerber International's heyday. Him and Pete Kershaw along with Al Mar were all working around that time for Gerber International or on their own endeavors at the time. During those days, the days before Bench Mark was bought by Gerber International, it was a test bed for many new ideas that Blackie and some others had back then.

It was quickly absorbed by Gerber and after the design team left, the company was just a name that eventually became associated with cheap offshore knives but there was a day when. IIRC, they were a new and upcoming knife manufacturing group working outta Oregon and made up of some of the great news designers of the day.

I'd swear to 95% of that. The value like YM,MV but there are a lot of older collectors and users who remember how the designers like Al Mar, Kershaw and Collins got started and still look for the knives that showed their influence when they worked for gerber, knives that showed their unmistakable influence. A great example is to look at the Gerber Silver Knight series in the late 70s to the early 80s and tell me you don't see the unmistakeable influence of Al Mar's hand in the design of that knife. Then, if you can find one from the 70s-80s and hold it, maybe even use it with the opportunity to sharpen it you would fall in love with the jewel like quality you felt in the Silver Knight. I never had one that was loose or wobbly. The F&F were like something you'd find in a handmade knife. If you ever get the chance to pick up one from the time period bow not the 90s or later 2nd Gen blades but the originals.

That's what gives them value in my eyes, the fact that these guys were just becomin' known in the industry, just beginin' to be noticed and for me that's a part of the history and that's invaluable, priceless so to speak sir but as in all things especially knives, YMMV. ;) :)
 
T. Erdelyi said:
Remember this crazy dude, he started the AO craze, yep, before Ken Onion did IIRC and held a ton of patents on new locking systems and other knife related patents. His name was Blackie Collins and he worked in the industry as a designer durin' the 80s. He was part of the Gerber Super Team of designers backed in the 80s and during Gerber International's heyday. Him and Pete Kershaw along with Al Mar were all working around that time for Gerber International or on their own endeavors at the time. During those days, the days before Bench Mark was bought by Gerber International, it was a test bed for many new ideas that Blackie and some others had back then.

It was quickly absorbed by Gerber and after the design team left, the company was just a name that eventually became associated with cheap offshore knives but there was a day when. IIRC, they were a new and upcoming knife manufacturing group working outta Oregon and made up of some of the great news designers of the day.

I'd swear to 95% of that. The value like YM,MV but there are a lot of older collectors and users who remember how the designers like Al Mar, Kershaw and Collins got started and still look for the knives that showed their influence when they worked for gerber, knives that showed their unmistakable influence. A great example is to look at the Gerber Silver Knight series in the late 70s to the early 80s and tell me you don't see the unmistakeable influence of Al Mar's hand in the design of that knife. Then, if you can find one from the 70s-80s and hold it, maybe even use it with the opportunity to sharpen it you would fall in love with the jewel like quality you felt in the Silver Knight. I never had one that was loose or wobbly. The F&F were like something you'd find in a handmade knife. If you ever get the chance to pick up one from the time period bow not the 90s or later 2nd Gen blades but the originals.

That's what gives them value in my eyes, the fact that these guys were just becomin' known in the industry, just beginin' to be noticed and for me that's a part of the history and that's invaluable, priceless so to speak sir but as in all things especially knives, YMMV. ;) :)
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Amazing history lesson. Thank you for that. I have seen some of the older silver knights and they are quite nice. (Pics only).
 
It annoys the s%!t out of my that CRKT picks up all those neat designs. I'd get a ZT Fulcrum in a heartbeat. The Rollock seems fun as well, but then again I like to fidget with some of my knives.
 
I'm shocked, Ted. Shocked! What lie will you tell next? You'll still respect us in the morning? The check is in the mail? It was like that when you got here? This dress doesn't make me look fat? :( I don't know what to believe any more. :D
 
T. Erdelyi said:
CRKT made a version called the Rollock, these are usually available on the auction site for about $30 last I looked. Certainly more affordable than the $200-$500 for the Bench Marks. :)

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Here's a quick video of it opening and closing.

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Interesting design.Kind of makes think of another abstract opening design that CRKT called the Fulcrum knife.
 
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