I just deleted the Fat Mike post...

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I just had a long conversation with Ron Hood and I haven't made any decisions yet, but I do know that I don't have enough infomation to take any action either way. I will be contacting Mr Anderson about this (or he can contact me), but to be honest this doesn't belong here.

More information will be available later.

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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Hi Spark:

Thank you for deleting the thread - but since you say that you haven't made a final decision yet...
The facts of the matter would seem to me to be that a person calling himself "Fat Mike" was inviting people reading this forum to go to a page with a pretty obnoxious title to read some character assassination involving one of the moderators of the forum.
Naturally I'm sorry that Ron had to read that stuff and feel that he had to respond - but crazy stuff goes on in the world..
I believe that if there is any need for defense here, it involves forum readers who might actually be foolish enough to go to a page with that title while on a work account, and to be led there by a guy calling himself "Fat Mike". I'm sure that I would not enjoy an interview with my employer where I had to explain why a page with that title showed up in the proxy logs - accessed by my work account.
Hopefully the thread and any future similar threads will be removed permanently. They serve no purpose in that there is nothing to debate. To my mind Mr. Anderson under his name of "Fat Mike" has made his delusions clear by virtue of the nature of his post and the title of the page that he was directing people to. It would seem that he wanted us to be aware of his problems. Now we are - and it's finished.

Jimbo
 
Spark, even though I have no say-so on the forums, what kind of 'decision' needs to be made?

Whatever Ron did or didn't do is not even pertinent to this forum - thus the reason for me saying move it in the original post by Anderson.

If Ron lied then he will have to deal with that within the military community. This forum is about wilderness and survival skills and as far as I'm concerned Ron is qualified to be a moderator here - and this is not in defense of Ron's actions if what Anderson posts is true - the bottom line is I don't care about that stuff when it comes to this forum.

If what Mike Anderson puts out is the truth then I think he has a right to post it on his site and forums related to that subject matter and he and Ron can battle that out, but when he comes over here on a totally un-related forum then he just lost a lot of credibility in my opinion.

The only thing that would justify Ron being removed from this forum is if he deceived the forum members or was less than honest in his dealings with them.....so far I haven't seen this.

Another thing, whether or not Ron received any wilderness education in the military is not important. Hell, I've never even stepped foot in the military and have no desire to....that does not take any hard learned experience away from me though. Matter of fact, most of the true survival experts I have worked with have never been in the military. Sorry, but I think military training is over-rated in many circumstances (that ought to stir up the mil crowd
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Of course that's another subject.

Anyway, just wanted to post this up before leaving. I'm headed to South America with the Travel Channel to work with the military...is that ironic or what?

See you guys in a week or so.

Jeff

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As far as I'm concerned, Ron Is "for real"!!!!

And my "loyalty"(for lack of a better term)is with him!!!
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Like I said before, I had a long talk with Ron and I talked to some others because I wanted other opinions on this. Some of these people did their own digging - and they were more than satisfied with the results.

As far as I am concerned Ron has nothing he needs to further explaination to me, or anyone on these forums. He's more than done his duty - and this Fat Mike charecter is not only misguided, but lacking in intestinal fortitude as well.

That should be the end of this matter.

Spark

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Thanks Spark and all.

I am sorry this guy got loose in here. Now that I've been "Outed" I'll no longer attempt to conceal my work in Intel. Enough time has passed....

I learned that I need to place a stronger emphasis on the word "attached" when speaking in terms of Special Forces.

Thanks again,

Ron

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I missed the now deleted thread.

I had sometimes idly wondered in what field Ron's doctorate was in. Simply out of curiosity. I figured it was probably anthropology or a related field.

I never considered that his doctorate had any bearing on his qualifications as a wilderness survival expert. I simply cannot imagine any doctorate which would give knowledge and experience in this area.

OK, how about medicine, you ask? Well, as a boarded Emergency MD, who has taken several wilderness survival (including in the field emergency medical management) emergency medicine courses, I can say that what I can do in the field is little more than an EMT or a nurse. Thus, my MD degree is of little benefit even in those rare times of emergent medical need in the field. It is damn hard to defibrillate a person on a trail, or give them some lidocaine IV. Even having an IV is unlikely.

By the way, I knew that Ron's degree wasn't in medicine. How? Quite simply, ALL MD's HATE to be called 'Doc.' This term conjures up the worst sort of patient population who commonly used this word, as well as the sterotype doctor in the old West.

As for what Ron did in the military, I fail to see the relevance of that as well. My son in law was a Green Beret, more precisely, as I recall, it was USASF (US Army Special Forces). He was a medic, crossed in demo. As far as the usefulness of his training today, his medical training is still quite good, probably about the same as a nurse, as far as primary acute care goes, but his knowledge of drugs is quite dated. I must admit that I do feel better knowing that my daughter has a weapons trained person around other than herself. Alan generally doesn't tell people about his military background. His military background has no relevenace to his present occupation.

So, I add my voice to the chorus of people who are saying Ron is a great wilderness guide and survival instructor. I visited his website and feel that the curriculum of his courses show a considerable depth of knowledge in the field. I have always read his posts with interest, and have been very favorably impressed with his obvious wisdom and experience expressed in these posts.

Good fortune and happy trails, Ron!

Walter Welch MD, Diplomate, American Board of Emergency Medicine

(if anyone cares, I also have a BS in Biology, went to Pharmacy school, and worked as a biochemist; none of which helps me in wilderness survival very much)
 
Well, I just got back from a few days away and missed this whole thing here -- never saw the deleted thread. However, if it came from Fat Mike, I can be sure it's the same load of BS he's been inflicting elsewhere on the Web. And folks, it IS BS! Ron is for real, period. I fully support him as my friend, and as one of the most skilled instructors of survival skills around.

Fat Mike has been causing trouble all over, because he has nothing better to do with his time.

Nuff said!

Best,

Brian.
 
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