I LOVE Victorinox steel!

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Iyonk

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...yup, kindda silly to read huh?...

i know its a softer alloy stainless steel at about 55HRC, but after experiencing some harder steel and feel the pain to resharpen them (not actually pain.. its just take longer time)-- not to mention some could rust in humid.... so my appreciation for SAKs steel really grow to confident...


the charm is its so easy to re shapen to razor sharp, and hold its edge reasonably well for a utility EDC knife... i'm not scared to used it, since if i dull the blade i know for sure it just take a couple of minutes for me to put its edge back... AND i feel confident it wont rust in my pocket after i cut anything...



please understand that i'm not bashing other higher grade steel--- they're great for their purposes... this is just a humble opinion and to encourage the SAKs user to appreciate more and confident with these affordable SAKs...

yup, every single aspect of SAKs is by designed... i love them...


what do you guys think?
 
I like it. I can go on for a day of cutting up various things before the blade goes slightly dull (even then it's usable, just not as sharp as I would like). A few quick swipes on the sharpmaker at the end of the day and it's good as new.

As long as the blade doesn't dull out half way through the day where I'm not quite done with it yet, I'm happy. The SAK steel holds a good edge and takes one very fast.
 
chenko said:
I love it too!
By the way, is that steel 420J2?
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It's DIN 34826.739283.737;????%\*~something.
European designation, about like a 440 grade steel. Victorinox has been using it forever, and they have the heat treatment perfected for it.
 
I really like the looks of the steel when polished. Not to mention how sharp the stuff gets with a little extra work! :D:thumbup:
 
It's supposed to be similar to 440B or Sandvik 12C27. It's designated X55CrMo14 or 1.4110 according to Victorinox.

Composition is:
15% chromium
0.60% silicon
0.52% carbon
0.50% molybdenum
0.45% manganese

Hope this helps mate!

manowar669 said:
It's DIN 34826.739283.737;????%\*~something.
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Close enough :D
 
Herr_Noobien said:
It's supposed to be similar to 440B or Sandvik 12C27. It's designated X55CrMo14 or 1.4110 according to Victorinox.

Composition is:
15% chromium
0.60% silicon
0.52% carbon
0.50% molybdenum
0.45% manganese

Hope this helps mate!

Close enough :D
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That's exactly it. And it's hardened to 56 HRC according to Victorinox.
 
is wenger use the same steel as victorinox? i kindda curious... would it be similar or better or worse...

sometime if the edge a little roll in some part, i use tweezers like a steel rod to help centering the edge again... kinnda helpful...

i've also use 1500 grit sandpaper to touch up the edge and stropping with green compound on leather... just take a very little time and the edge is scarry sharp again...

with easy sharpening like that, the edge holding ratio is great for me... never been letdown with these small utility EDC knives...
 
I think Wenger uses the same steel, but from my experiences I don't think they have nailed the heat treat like Victorinox. That's not to say Wenger's heat treat is bad (it's excelent), just that Victorinox has it perfected (manowar was spot on).
 
One more question... is the blade material of soldier/farmer alox similar to the 91mm and 84mm variant or even the small classic? --- and also would the blade material of SAKs similar to their cutlery line? (like their paring knives and kitchen knives?)

just curious, since i got small victorinox paring knife and zwilling paring knife, and the victorinox really perform perfectly even though it very affordable...
 
I'm pretty happy with it too . A snap to sharpen , and holds an edge as long as I need it to . SAK's are de bomb at the pricepoint !

Gotta admit , I would like one of the Damascus Pioneers they had at SHOT , more for smartass points than function .

Chris
 
damascus black pioneers are awesomely gorgeous!!! i love the work of swissbiaco... to bad i live continents far apart, i would buy the collections in a heartbeat!
 
Iyonk said:
One more question... is the blade material of soldier/farmer alox similar to the 91mm and 84mm variant or even the small classic? --- and also would the blade material of SAKs similar to their cutlery line? (like their paring knives and kitchen knives?)

just curious, since i got small victorinox paring knife and zwilling paring knife, and the victorinox really perform perfectly even though it very affordable...
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As I understand, they make every SAK knife blade of the same material (X55CrMo14), regardless of size or model. Not sure of their paring and kitchen knives though.
 
I thought it was rostafrei:D steel, lol....

(those who have been around for a long while will remember the special ingredient ie. ganja, used in the making of this special steel) :p
 
Iyonk said:
... its so easy to re shapen to razor sharp, and hold its edge reasonably well for a utility EDC knife... i'm not scared to used it, since if i dull the blade i know for sure it just take a couple of minutes for me to put its edge back... AND i feel confident it wont rust in my pocket after i cut anything...
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I totally agree. :thumbup: It's a great steel for pocketknives in the real world (even it if won't hold it's edge after driving if through the side panel of an '84 Chevy Impala).
 
A VICTORINOX swiss army knife is the only knife i will trust & use the second it is out of the box. The build quality and trust i have in their tools is amazing, and they're cheaply priced, i think. I love the steel also, it's easy to sharpen and i don't worry about dulling it to the point of it being able to not be used. I've beat the crap out of swiss army knives for 8 or 9 years now (i'm 22) and it's with me through the woods. I've had a minichamp, super tinker, centurion, classic and swisschamp and the swisschamp sees the most use and is my only SAK i carry to date. I carry a swisstool also.
 
I have never cared for it. I like a good, harder steel with better edge holding capabilities.
 
I deeply, deeply love my Vic pocket and kitchen knives.

Mr. Elsner. I will kiss you on the mouth someday.
 
OMG, 15% chromium?! I'd expect much worse performance from such a high chromium content. But hell, I don't know much about steel chemical compositions it seems. :P
 
Iyonk said:
One more question... is the blade material of soldier/farmer alox similar to the 91mm and 84mm variant or even the small classic? --- and also would the blade material of SAKs similar to their cutlery line? (like their paring knives and kitchen knives?)

just curious, since i got small victorinox paring knife and zwilling paring knife, and the victorinox really perform perfectly even though it very affordable...
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I'm willing to bet the steel in the SAKs is the same as the steel in the paring knives. I find their paring knives to be incredibly sharp, hold an edge for a respectable period of time, and be a breeze to sharpen. So basically, exact same set of characteristics as the SAKs.

- Mark
 
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