I need help identifying these knives

[seanikai]

neither have any stamps or markings, got them in a big box of stuff that were returns from the ag russell store

 

[BrotherJim]

A lack of any stamps or markings usually means a non USA made knife. Hard for me to image A.G. Russell selling a knife with no stamps or marking what so ever. Wonder if maybe they were some kind of prototype for Russell's marketing review or something. Regardless, I don't see either of these in Russell's current catalog. Have you tried contacting A.G. Russell, since that's where you say the knives are from?

 

[seanikai]

Most of the knives I got in the box were 10-20 years old so I honestly doubt anyone there would remember and it’s definitely not something that would’ve been in a catalog. It’s not a big deal I was just was wondering if anyone recognized the designs.

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

A.G. Russell has, at times, offered 'seconds' or other imperfect knives for sale via their catalog or site. Those would be knives with some sort of manufacturing imperfection or cosmetic flaws. He had always been VERY CLEAR & HONEST in describing them as such, as well as discounting them appropriately. The absence of stamps or other maker's marks might hint that these knives might've been such 'seconds' - but it's impossible to know for sure.

Both of those patterns do look to me like some he's listed in his catalogs before. The red/brown jigged bone on the 2nd one, in particular, looks very familiar to me. I have one or two from him in what appears to be the same color/jigging. I believe the pattern of the 2nd knife is what A.G. described as a 'Loveless Style Drop Point', with that pattern first originated by Bob Loveless. I do know he also listed knives made by Bob Dozier in the same Loveless pattern - those usually were in D2 steel.

I was used to seeing these patterns in A.G.'s catalogs back in the early-mid 1990s, as a frame of reference for their age.

 

[Arathol]

Both are older AG Russell offerings.
Top knife is a Morseth Pilot Survival Knife, the bottom knife is a Bob Loveless designed drop point.
Both knives have shadows on the tang, almost as if something was removed....

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

Both are older AG Russell offerings.
Top knife is a Morseth Pilot Survival Knife, the bottom knife is a Bob Loveless designed drop point.
Both knives have shadows on the tang, almost as if something was removed....

Couldn't remember the name/model of that Morseth - I knew I'd seen it in AGR's catalogs. But your info rings a bell now.

 

[LastRodeo]

I think AG called that the Gents Drop Point Hunter.

 

[huntnfishin]

Both are older AG Russell offerings.
Top knife is a Morseth Pilot Survival Knife, the bottom knife is a Bob Loveless designed drop point.
Both knives have shadows on the tang, almost as if something was removed....

You always seem to know...very, very, impressive. I am always amazed when I read your posts.

 

[eisman]

The Morseth pattern has also been called a Chute knife; it's a blade pattern a lot of folks have used, including Bob Loveless. The second is not a Loveless Drop Point Hunter, but a copy of his Field & Stream pattern. It's a really useful knife! I'd be very happy to own either of those.

 

[Kcsstrat]

A lack of any stamps or markings usually means a non USA made knife. Hard for me to image A.G. Russell selling a knife with no stamps or marking what so ever. Wonder if maybe they were some kind of prototype for Russell's marketing review or something. Regardless, I don't see either of these in Russell's current catalog. Have you tried contacting A.G. Russell, since that's where you say the knives are from?

Wouldn't they be illegal to sale in the United States if they are not legibly marked stating their origin? So if they were made in the US then they wouldn't have to be marked. BTW I'm here because I received a knife and a straight razor for Christmas one year, and neither of them have a single marking on them. No numbers, letters, or symbols. It's very odd to me because every piece of cutlery I've seen has at least a seemingly random numerical code on it. The knife I received is a full tang damascus tanto. And the straight razor has a black finish on the blade that reminds me of gun bluing and wooden handles.