I think I figured it out

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I think I finally know why I like Kershaw knives so much. Because they're different! I know that a great deal of other companies make nice, high quality knives of comparable quality to Kershaw. However, Kershaw is not limited by a key styling characteristic (i.e. spyderco) and likes to experiment with different designs. The groove, ET, bump, offset, and many of their brethren are in a class by themselves. No other knife looks quite like them, or functions quite the way they do. Many other knife companies make blade after blade that look very similar, have liner or frame lock handles, and share a company style. Not that these knives are bad, or inferior in any way, but when a first timer says "how do you close it?" because my bump has a stud lock, I feel unique. Kershaw knives leave an imprint in the memory of their users, and those who experience them, because they are different. Kershaw isn't afraid to deviate from the norm, and they have an audience who is constantly waiting not only for the latest steel or a new blade shape, but for the next technology, the next knife that makes people go :confused::confused::eek: instead of :yawn::yawn:. Keep up the good work Kershaw, the Hawks, and Ken Onion!
 
spyderco actually makes a lot of unique looking knives that are still totally functional. i pretty much only buy spydercos and kershaw because these two companies offer so many interesting designs, other companies seem bland in comparison.

take a look at some of these spydercos and their funky designs.....

spyderco kris
spyderco dodo
spyderco lava
spyderco adventura
spyderco native

just to name a few..
 
I'll concede for the kris, and definitely the dodo, but the majority of spyderco knives still look like ordinary folders, without anything to really stick out in your mind.
 
How about we just say "all good, but different" and leave it at that?

Spydercos are great for what they are, as are Kershaws. Neither really fill the niche the other does.
 
How about we just say "all good, but different" and leave it at that?

Spydercos are great for what they are, as are Kershaws. Neither really fill the niche the other does.

That's my take. They are nothing alike. I have many of both, but I like them for different reasons.

I saw a thread the other day that had someone comparing a Limited Boker Damascus to a Sebenza or Strider. :rolleyes:

mike
 
Im not saying one is better than the other (thought I have my preference) I'm just saying that Kershaw has such a variety that seems to defy the standard knife, while still retaining everyday usability (I know it's odd looking, but that dodo doesn't appear to have much conventional usability). It's thew new and totally different that's a big draw, unless I'm mistaken, all the knives shown in spyderco's lineup are frame/liner lock (balisongs excepted), while kershaw has the stud, ET lock (that is off is who knows what category), and hawk lock. The blade shapes are fascinating, and still 100% usable.
 
I'll admit that my first impressions of CRK&T were not very positive. I handeled a few of their folders at a gun show some years ago and they wern't much - fair amount of slop or play in the pivots - frankly paid no attention to their stuff from there on out. Have been trying recently to down size my EDC - running into the inevitable realization that if I do some of the prying tasks that my EDU Kershaw Boa did without fail for me with smaller knives - I'm gonna break a tip SAS. Figured that I would see if I could add something to my tool belt pouch that I could use for the heavy duty use - the now discontinued Crawford plier knife seems to fill the bill. Got me lookin at a few of their other knives and frankly was impressed - they still make some stuff that leaves me cold ( the little folding KISS knife is a case in point) - but they've got some pretty talented designers working for them and at least the 4 or 5 differnt designs I've handeled have been well put together. I'd give them particular points for the sheath designs on a number of their fixed blades - we keep a stiff KISS in the kitchen as a utility knife ( mostly to keep SWMBO from grabing a Heinkel for something other than food preperation) and I'm thinking about substituting one of their para-medic knives for the plier knife - still a pretty non-threatining tool - but able to take some gentle prying without going to pieces
.BTW - I do agree that Kershaw is probably the least locked into a look co. out there. They also continue to surprise me as to how many of even their more out there designs are actually pretty darn useful tools. Bought a used Baby Boa out of curiousity off of a forum member - ya know what -this thing cuts! Probably wouldn't want to butcher a hog with it - but it is far more useful than I would have ever expected such a small knife to be. It's got me thinkin about a mojito now.
 
i guess it's the difference that attracts me. lets take the sebenza, no one will deny that quality of this knife, but it's so simple, really one of the plainest knives out there. If I ever get a $54788932.58 "dress" folder, that fits the bill nicely, but I tend to be the slightly oddish guy. Not out there, but the guy who does everything a little different, and all the kershaw designs work with that thought process well.
 
Kershaws are all well and good, but if variety is a focal point here I'm amazed nobody mentioned CRKT; they have a few terrificly unconventional designs and innovative ideas. They're one to look at as well.
 
Im not saying one is better than the other (thought I have my preference) I'm just saying that Kershaw has such a variety that seems to defy the standard knife, while still retaining everyday usability (I know it's odd looking, but that dodo doesn't appear to have much conventional usability). It's thew new and totally different that's a big draw, unless I'm mistaken, all the knives shown in spyderco's lineup are frame/liner lock (balisongs excepted), while kershaw has the stud, ET lock (that is off is who knows what category), and hawk lock. The blade shapes are fascinating, and still 100% usable.

Different isn't necessarily better. Spyderco produces many, many "leaf shaped" fully flat ground blades. I love this blade profile for general cutting. Their "Captain" model is "different," but I did not find it nearly as useful as their more conventional blades. It depends on the work the person performs with his EDC though. Certain types of cuts are better done by a serrated hawkbill, others a drop point with lots of belly, some a small wharncliffe excels. The Dodo for instance would be exceptional for opening packages of all sorts, cutting up cardboard etc, but it would make a horrendous paring knife. Different, in my eyes, is only good if it improves upon the conventional. Recurves are different. Many people find them useful. I did at certain times, but overall I'm happier with the profile of a Junkyard Dawg. I can recognize why others would like them though.

Spyderco has a few locks they've developed themselves actually. They utilize the following:

Front lock (Lockback placed in a position to make one handed closing possible. They execute these very, very well, to the point where many Spyderco fans are reluctant to ever go back to liner locks. It's kind of funny, I've seen some Kershaw fans not want to use a Spyder because it's not AO and I've read of Spyderco fans not wanting to use a Kershaw because it's a liner lock.)

Compression Lock (A unique twist on the liner lock concept that dramatically increases strength, though closing the knife can take getting used to at first. The release is on the top of the handle and the liner engages the tang in a way that creates a much more secure lock)

Ball Lock (Sort of like an improved version of Benchmades Axis Lock. They have two versions of this lock, caged and non-caged)

Liner Lock (They radius the tang on many knives where the liner engages, which is seen by many as a smart engineering choice. Their Military model, like a lot of Kershaws well-executed liner locks, has converted many people who lacked faith in LL's previously)

Frame Lock

Notch Joint (A hybrid between a lock back and slipjoint. It operates like a slipjoint but has a slight notch resembling a lockback which makes the knife require much more force to close than a regular slipjoint)


They've used a few other locks over the years like the Phantom Lock I believe it was called on the Meerkat model. Not only do they offer a good variety of lock types, but they're generally extremely reliable, secure locks.

Spyderco and Kershaw are two of the best production knife companies I've come across for a modern one handed knife. They both create a wide variety of knives, from kitchen knives, small and large tacticals and traditional / modern hybrids like the double cross or micro dyad. Each company has knives from 20$ to 200$ that will give you years of service, and have outstanding customer service to back them up.

My preference is for Spyderco. I've tried out a lot of Kershaws, though I still haven't gotten to experience their very high end knives (Most expensive one I had was a Spec Bump), and I found the ergonomics didn't fit me quite as well as my favorite Spydercos do. I also prefer the opening hole over every other method, prefer Spydercos steel selection and clip design and generally just find their designs more appealing. Like I said though it's just my preference. I can't really say anything negative about Kershaw, my hands just like Sal's interpretation of knife ergonomics more than Ken Onions it seems.

It would be fun to see them do another collaboration model.
 
Ah, I see I have more to look at in the spyderco lineup. Different is not always better, but as far as I'm concerned, different is preferable. I like different. I will take a look at the front lock/compression lock/ball lock. they sound somewhat interesting, and I'll have a look. But I still have a good sized list of kershaws that are presently taking priority
 
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