I thought this was funny.

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Everybody here knows I have a strange sense of humor but when I read the following I got a huge chuckle out of it.
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WASHINGTON (March 11) - Despite reminders that potential weapons aren't allowed in airliner cabins, people are still trying to bring tens of thousands of knives, dozens of guns and thousands of box cutters on board planes every month.

Airport screeners have seized more than 4.8 million items - including guns, knives, a kitchen sink pipe and a circular saw - in the 13 months the federal government has been in charge of security.

Transportation Security Administration spokesman Brian Turmail said more education is needed to alert the traveling public to the items barred from aircraft cabins.

Since February 2002, TSA screeners confiscated 1.4 million knives, 2.4 million sharp objects, 1,101 guns, 15,666 clubs, more than 125,000 incendiary items and nearly 40,000 box cutters.

The TSA on Monday released those figures, its most thorough accounting of seizures at the nation's 429 commercial airports.

Turmail said the agency is working with airports to put passenger information on airport radio stations, but some people seem never to learn.

``If you don't know by now that box cutters are inappropriate, no amount of public education is going to make a difference,'' Turmail said.

Local police arrested 922 people at checkpoints, though how many of those resulted in convictions is not known.

Among the more unusual items collected by screeners: a 15-piece cutlery set, a machete, a trailer hitch, horseshoes, that kitchen sink pipe and circular saw and metal wall hangings depicting the Greek god Apollo.

``Those are found with some regularity,'' Turmail said, referring to the wall hangings. The sharp points around the figure's head make it similar to a throwing star used in martial arts, he said.

Paul Hudson, executive director of the Aviation Consumer Action Project, an airline safety and security advocacy group, called the number of confiscated items mind-boggling.

``If that's how many they've found, how many still got through?'' he asked.

A test last spring by the Transportation Security Administration showed screeners found knives only 70 percent of the time and missed one in four guns.

Turmail said the TSA tests screeners regularly, and he's confident that screening has improved.

David Stempler, president of the Air Travelers Association, said the vast majority of confiscated items are things people simply forgot to leave at home. Even frequent travelers sometimes forget to go through their bags for scissors or cigarette lighters before leaving on a trip, he said.

He credits the TSA with making air travel safer.

The agency has changed the list of forbidden items over the past year, now allowing tweezers, nail clippers and toy transformer robots that once were prohibited. The agency posts the list on its Web site.

During March, the first full month the TSA was in charge of screeners, 409,801 items were confiscated, including 4,711 box cutters and 55 guns. Last month, 326,793 items were taken, including 1,132 box cutters and 61 guns.

The number of so-called incendiary devices, which include butane lighters, nearly quintupled from September and October and stayed above 10,000 a month ever since. Turmail said it's because screeners now know better what qualifies as an incendiary device.

People do seem to be getting the word about box cutters, which were banned from aircraft cabins after Sept. 11, 2001, because authorities believe the 19 hijackers used them to commandeer the planes.

Last month, screeners confiscated only about a fifth of the record 5,145 taken from passengers in April.

Airports have various ways of getting rid of items taken from passengers. Washington Reagan National Airport sends them to a metal grinder before they're melted down, while several California airports - including San Jose Mineta International Airport and Oakland International Airport - offer them on the eBay online auction site, Turmail said.
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
...while several California airports - including San Jose Mineta International Airport and Oakland International Airport - offer them on the eBay online auction site, Turmail said.
otherwise known as "Legalized Larceny"

lar·ce·ny

The unlawful taking and removing of another's personal property with the intent of permanently depriving the owner; theft.
 
My brother got busted for something on his last trip to Reno but he got an envelope and some stamps and dropped the stuff into the mail box and it got here a couple of days after he did. Moral: Always carry a big padded envelope with priority mail postage affixed when going thru airport security.
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
Moral: Always carry a big padded envelope with priority mail postage affixed when going thru airport security.
Of course, if you were smart enough to carry an extra envelope...

:rolleyes:
 
and metal wall hangings depicting the Greek god Apollo. ``Those are found with some regularity,'' Turmail said, referring to the wall hangings. The sharp points around the figure's head make it similar to a throwing star used in martial arts, he said.

:D It's good to know that Apollo is still deadly after all these years.
 
My favorite was the trailer hitch. I guess they figured he might hook up and haul to plane away.
 
Think I posted about this once before.

Screener at Albuquerque and his Dad had quite a business going on the weekends. He would confiscate stuff during the week and his Dad would sell it at the flea market on the weekends. They made them stop it without penalties or charges. This from an APD officer, I got into a friendly discussion with on Labor Day weekend, while waiting for my sister to arrive.
 
About three years ago, I carried with me back from Hawaii a 30+ inch samoan wooden warclub, with pointy serraed teeth in rows doen each side, and a point on the tip of this thin is like a hard wooden spearpoint. I wrapped it in a beach towel, carried it thru security, put it thru Xray, and carried it onto the plane, and had the stewardess help me place it behind my seat.

No probs, carried it off the planne and all.

I'f id had that thing on flight 93...

Keith
 
I used to fly all over the world regularly with a Puma 970 lockback in my pocket and a Gerber Guardian in my boot.
That was then (80s)
Now they try to take a Medal of Honor from a retired Marine General
because it has sharp points on it. The General kept his MH, his name was Joe Foss and it was at Phoenix Sky Harbor airport last year.

Warren
(orono)
 
This is just like every other thing the government get involved in. Not enough or go overboard. In this case it has opened up the chances for theft rings and all sorts of illegal things to be happening. Then there are those that wonder why guys like me don't trust government?:)
 
...a trailer hitch, horseshoes...

Hey are those on the proscribed list???
That must be getting pretty long if they are ammending it.

Guess I'll have to check all those gold bars and bags of precious coins in an unlocked bag...bummer :p

Do they want those giant chain necklaces too?
 
I'm waiting for them to ban wire coat hangers. Doesn't take much to turn it into something a lot more dangerous than a Medal of Honor, Apollo wall hanging, or most cheap no-edge knives for that matter.

:rolleyes:
 
I read a storie on a passenger that collected vintage G.I. Joe action figuers and he had one in his carry on and airport security made him open the box and give them the inch long plastic gun that G.I.Joe was carying because it was a "deadly weapon"!!!!!

How F#@*%#* up is the country getting!!!!!:mad:
 
This country isn't much different that Nazi Germany was any more. And getting worse all the time. Instead of worrying about Iraq, the demonstrators should be worrying about the freedoms in this country that are getting stomped on every day. And, yes I think terrorists will strike again hard and the Lord only knows where.

Has any one besides me thought about the problems in the UN that just don't quite get worked out all the time? In line with that, What about a set up?
It looks to me like it has been brewing for a long time. There would be a war for the Mongers. USA, The Brits,and Israel maybe Canada and Australia. If this happened to be the lineup on the side of the good guys against the rest of the world, We have a grest big problem. Don't look for any help from the Pacific Ilanders, they all have their own problems with terrorists. Most of the South American countries have there own problems. The way I see it I hope I'm wrong. This would be one hell of a mess for a while. But, think about it, it is not impossible.:eek:
 
The funniest one I've heard lately is the baseball stadium that forbade entrance with picnic coolers, umbrellas and the like. AFTER entrance and the ticket is torn a metal detector...can't go out and return with torn ticket, so it's give up the pocket knife or the game. Safe now??? Well they then gave out full size bats because it was bat day!!!!
 
I talked to a guy who tried to get on his flight with his digital camera in his carry-on bag. He knew that if he left in his luggage it would be stolen.

They let him take the camera on board, but confiscated the two AA batteries.

What's up with that?
 
The battery thing is weird.

Half the folks on the plane have walkmans--batteries included.

Some of this stuff seems capricious and arbritrary....an intentionally intimidating display of authority. Maybe to keep everyone else nicely docile and submisssive because it could happen to them, but now probably won't because the somebody else just got it.

Social terrorism, really.
 
This Monday I walked right through airport security with a gerber multitool in my bag. They xrayed it and didn't bat an eye. They didn't even check. It has a 3" knife and saw blade both on it.
I would like to mention that I had forgotten it was in that bag, I assumed it was in my toolbag which I checked. Oops.

Funnier still is I wear black boots with 12 metal clasps and only one time in 10 does it set the metal detector off. People that go through in dress shoes set off the metal detector constantly. Its great to be able to tell the TSA guy 'nah' when he tells me I should take off the boots, and then walk on through without a hitch.

What I've REALLY been wanting to do is walk through with one of those fake 'Can of Nuts' that has the springy snake in it.:D
If I do, I'll have a friend videotape it and post it on here while I'm a holding cell, lol.

Dak
 
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