I Too Have Question About International

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rlinger

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A guy in Germany wants to buy a portable Rockwell tester from me. It is a $400 item to him. I gave him my address to send a money order to. He wants to use Paypal or direct to my bank account. I am not interesting in giving him my bank info. Is there any reason a money order to my address would not work?

Thanks, Roger
 
Hi Roger,

I'll be in the market for a Rockwell tester in the near future. I don't mean to hijack the thread, but if that deal falls through, I'd be interested in hearing some details about what you have for sale. I don't have the funds to purchase one right away, but in the near future I'll be seeking one out...

-Darren
 
A money order from "over the pond"?

Personally, I wouldn't do it.

International payment with Paypal is risky too, btw.

It's a pain in the butt to get shipment verification - expensive too.

I'd strongly consider finding a US buyer. Unless you're doing this guy a huge favor so he can feed his starvin' kids, and so on...

If he is offering to pay through Paypal, you are not disclosing any bank account information to him. Paypal acts like a third party - neither buyer nor seller has the other person's account information.

Only Hal does... :eek: ;)

Seriously, though, I'd trust Paypal over International Airmail.

Just tell him he has to wait until the Paypal payment is deposited into your bank - about 2 to 3 days. Then you'll ship.

Dan
 
Okay, Paypal I guess.

Darren, if it falls through I'll email pics. If you're interested I'll trust you. That way you can use it. I will say this: It is a Clark portable Rockwell tester model CPT with diamond penetrator and flat anvil, no case. I can make a copy of the instructions (I only have one manual for the three testers I have). If it falls through and you really want it it is 390 bucks to your door step. I would say the hell with my fine kraut friend over the pond except that I cut the deal. Knife makers keep their word.

I just added up my total expenditure for the three I have. It worked out to 365 each. If it falls through (since you're one of use) $365 plus actual shipping. Probably $372 to $375.

RL
 
No, I originally agreed to the deal with check or money order. I never agreed or gave him any idea I would agree to bank transfer or Paypal. In the beginning I told him when the check/money order clears I'll ship.

If he balks I can drop out without breaking my word.
 
There's always Western Union. They have offices all over Germany, and will wire the funds, in US$$, to the Western Union nearest you.
Fast, AND safe.
 
Originally posted by rlinger
Knife makers keep their word.
RL
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Absolutely! That's one of the fine things about this community, when a knifemaker says he'll do something, it's as good as done.

Definitely let me know if the deal doesn't go. I'm gearing up for a Christmas release into the retail market with my razors and a Rockwell tester is something I'm going to have to add to my arsenal by October.

How did that strop work out for you, btw?

:)

-Darren
 
Darren, the strop is just fine. Fine indeed.

I neglected to remember something very important in my post to you. Check with the others that do Rockwell testing. One thing that will kill your results is the material being tested is too thin. You need a certain thickness so that the indentor does not compromise (dimple or push through) the bottom of the test piece. I would suggest you verify the practicality of using it with a custom manufacturer of staight razors that you know and believe in. Of course, though, you would not wish to indent the part of the razor that shows so you, like me, would test it at the handle area of the steel. You know what I am saying, right??

Roger
 
Roger, Roger. :)


How deep of an indentation does the portable model leave? My thoughts are to test say 1 in 10 or so, I'll be using a PID controlled salt pot so consistency will be good. I can either test right near the pivot hole so it's inconspicuous or at the top of the hollow grind where there is some thickness, and then just grind away the divot during the finishing grinding steps. Does this sound reasonable to you with this model tester? Since there's no differential heat treating involved, I can test pretty much anywhere on the blank.

If you know of another custom razor manufacturer let me know, I've yet to come across one! :) I'm actually moving away from the custom work, and am going to go straight manufacturing and selling through retailers.

-Darren
 
Darren, I really do not believe it has much to do with any particular tester but rather the theory of operation. The final indentation (there are two, one on top off another - see second paragraph) is a result of 150 Kg of pressure on the test piece by the diamond (C-scale stuff, that's the scale you want). I really can not tell you just how deep because it varies with hardness of test piece. I will say that I have tested 1/16th inch thickness on a paring knife I made that tested 60 HRc with no problems and no sign of dimpling on the bottom. Your razors should be right up there, I would presume.

Basically the theory works as such: A minor load of (I think 10 Kg) is placed followed by, at the same spot and during the same procedure, a major load of 150 Kg. The weight is then backed off to the minor load weight and the hardness level read. The major load (in number of Kg) changes with different scales and the load I mention here is the load we knife makers are interested in (the C scale). For C scale testing above HRc 20 (I think I'm right on that value) a diamond penetrator is used.

A picture is worth alot more than my poor writings. I will fire you off two or three tonight so you can at least see what I've got. My tester is not a bench model. It is a hand held tester. You will see.

Roger
 
If any of you guys are considering money orders just check with your bank that they will accept the order first.

Our post office will not accept us post office money orders for example. Your bank is likely to cash most but also likely to add a fairly large fee. add your banks fee onto the price you quote.
expect a few weeks for the money to clear as well.

It sounds a pain but a sale is a sale as long as you end up with what you want for the knife and the extra runing around.
 
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