I would like to know what you think about my sharpening post

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If you could please tell me what you think about my sharpening post that would be a big help, and if you have a method you would like to share feel free to post it here, please.

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Sharpening is one of those topics that come up constantly. There's a good reason for that, of course.

Telling new guys to read the FAQ and do a search is good advice, but rehashing the topic is good advice, too. There's always something new to say or someone who wants a discussion more than a history lesson.

The response you got may indicate that you hit a lull in the general interest level around here.

Your instructions were fine -- but I maintain my own knives with a Sharpmaker.
 
Not to sound insulting, but as has already been pointed out in the thread in question, your post had that tone we associate with newbie posters who think they know more than everyone else here. Be grateful you didn't get flamed any harder.

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On an internet forum such as this where all communication is written, it can be a little tough to tell what the tone of a post is. I don't know what tone you were attempting to convey in your post, but to me, it had a slightly condescending tone. Sharpening is a favorite topic of mine too, and there's nothing I love better than having an interesting discussion about different methods. I've learned a lot by reading posts here. The thing is that it isn't a competition. I like to read newbies' posts here in which they say my advice and or the advice of other experienced forumites helped them obtain a hair-popping edge. I don't see a point in laying down a challenge for someone else to "show up" your sharpening method. Everyone uses different methods and has different needs. I consider myself to be an experienced, competent knife and tool sharpener, but I don't feel the need to prove it to everyone else. A post such as yours, with the same information but not the challenge, would be perfect for answering a novice sharpener's request for help. I don't think your post was especially offensive, just a little misguided.
 
I think you were trying to be helpful with your post. You have a system that works for you and that's fine. I also think with that same post you showed a lack of understanding as to who frequent these Forums. We have some serious knife collectors, major manufacturers and some of the top custom makers in the world. None of whom are going to be overly impressed by your credentials, or your attitude. Your technique adds nothing new to most of us here so don't spend a lot of time on the video.
When someone asks me what's the best way to sharpen a knife I tell them to get a Spyderco Sharpmaker 204 (which does come with a video) with it anyone can sharpen a knife. Sal Glesser of Spyderco can shave paper with the spine of a knife. If you can show me how to do that then you will have impressed me?
Until then try lightening up a bit. Believe it or not there's been a lot of information about sharpening and every other facet of knives you can imagine discussed here.

BTW, welcome to the Forums.

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I thought your post was fine. But as Phil pointed out, it did not really add anything that many of us already know. It may have taught some people something, and I hope it did, but my reaction was more like, yeah, so?

So I did not say anything. At least I did not say anything until you started this thread to complain about the low response rate in your other thread. Please do not do that sort of thing. It is considered bad form and may well get you flamed.

The basic problem with trying to explain sharpening to people is that they have to do it enough to understand What they are trying to accomplish. That usually only comes with some practice. I think you seem to know what you are doing. But if you understand sharpening, you know that any number of different techniques can be used to achieve good, great, and outstanding edges. Of course, defining what is the perfect edge is pretty much impossible because it depends on the cutting task at hand, the edge geometry, and the physical characteristics of that particular piece of steel.

The sharpening FAQ by Joe Talmadge is much better from an informational standpoint than what you wrote. Your challenge: "if you DO know more then please show me up..." is really silly. You said also that this was 'one of those subjects where everyone has to be right', and then you set out to tell us your version of the truth.

I am here to tell you that Nobody is right. Everyone may use different stones, different angles, and different polishing agents; all these things are unimportant. It is what in the sharpeners Mind that is important, not the steel in his hand. Sharpening is a spiritual thing, a thing of grace and beauty. In Zen they say that that as soon as you try to talk about the infinite, you have left the true path. It is the same with sharpening.

It is likely that many of us know as much or more than you do about sharpening techniques, steel, edge geometry, heat-treatment, and a host of other knife subjects, as well as some other things. No doubt you also have a lot of knowledge and experience to offer us.

If you had written your post as a reply to someone asking about how to sharpen, it would have been graciously recieved. I use slightly different materials and techniques to achieve what I think are great edges, in fact, a number of different techniques, depending on the blade and its function, so I was not particularly inspired to repond to your topic.

Be wary of making bold assertations and challenges. Someone might actually call your bluff, call you out, and shoot you down like the dirty dog you are (oops, ...sorry. I had an old western movie flashing before my eyes). I myself am simply satisfied to have written you this post. Take the pebble, grasshopper...
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[This message has been edited by Paracelsus (edited 04-15-2001).]
 
Hi Technoknight. What I have to say is pretty drivelish compared to the wisdom Paracelsus and others offered you here, but maybe a mundane point of view could be helpful.

I read probably 85% of the threads on this forum. When I came to your sharpening thread, I simply skipped it. I've read an awful lot of threads about sharpening since I joined Blade Forums, enough that I simply had no interest.

I did, however, read your second post, because it had such an unusual title. As soon as I read your opening post, I closed that and went back and read your first post.

I was a somewhat amazed at how little flame was directed your way in the first thread.
After reading that thread, I frankly don't understand the reasoning behind this one. It seems to me that you were expecting praise and thanks, and when it didn't happen, you went looking for it. Poor form, as Paracelsus said.

Better luck nextime!



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WHERE IS IT??????? I,m new and would at least like to read it and give you a fair shot. Tell me where to find it...........

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