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W9SIX

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I want to be up front by saying that this knife will be up for sale shortly, so I don't want you guys to feel "used". I sold the cousin to this one at the big auction site a year or so back and unfortunately do not remember the details given by the bidders there on model, year etc. seems like they said it was from the 40's, hand made by Hoyt Buck, probably in his garage. It's 8 3/8" overall, the blade is 4". If you don't want to divulge any info to further my sale, that's cool with me, and I understand completely. either way, thanks in advance. Matt
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W9SIX said:
I want to be up front by saying that this knife will be up for sale shortly, so I don't want you guys to feel "used". I sold the cousin to this one at the big auction site a year or so back and unfortunately do not remember the details given by the bidders there on model, year etc. seems like they said it was from the 40's, hand made by Hoyt Buck, probably in his garage. It's 8 3/8" overall, the blade is 4". If you don't want to divulge any info to further my sale, that's cool with me, and I understand completely. either way, thanks in advance. Matt
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It appears to be an early BUCK handmade skinner from 1947-48, probably made by Hoyt Buck. They are identified (dated) by groups and this would be in Group four according to the stamp. I'm assuming that there is not a number stamped on the other side of the blade. The handles are stacked Lucite, an acrylic plastic. It appears to be in good condition and having the sheath is a plus. I have seen them sell from $300 to $600. Depending on condition and who is bidding or trying to buy it. If it was my knife, I would keep it. I have a few of them. Let me know when and where it is for sale. I hate to say it, but eBay would bring the most money for a knife like this. I Hope that helps.
 
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I greatly appreciate your comments and opinion. I agree that ebay may be the best market for it. I don't see anything at all stamped on the opposite side of the blade. the handles of this one and the one I sold previously are the same, the blade on this one is shorter and slightly wider. I will keep you informed on the sale when that happens. Thanks again. Matt
 
For your auction, it would probably be best to include as much information as possible in the auction title...I say this because I only Search titles; and then go to the individual auction to read the description...

There are some, like 334dave, who will go though all 1971+ "Buck" auctions looking for deals...or rare knives, like yours... :p

In your particular case, I am at a loss to say what or how you should describe it... :(

Hopefully, someone else will chime in...

My $.02 would be to go with eBay and not accept any offers by email...or at least wait until your auction is over...

A handmade Hoyt Buck is worth...whatever the buyer will pay... :D
 
Buck knife vintage Lucite handle 105 1951-54 Nice!

This seemed to work for Joe Houser on his recent auction.
 
W9SIX said:
I greatly appreciate your comments and opinion. I agree that ebay may be the best market for it. I don't see anything at all stamped on the opposite side of the blade. the handles of this one and the one I sold previously are the same, the blade on this one is shorter and slightly wider. I will keep you informed on the sale when that happens. Thanks again. Matt
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Here are some that I have. These are all skinners, as your's is also.

 
the sample header should include what Hking said but
you should also use the subheading option !
in it say - antique, hand made, old, rare, USA, collectible, Koran War (below expanded)
any thing in the sub head-heading will create a HIT on searches using those words
now as to Koran War.. this knife was made during that time frame
thus it would be a correct addation to any military buffs wanting correct time frame
items for a KW display..
also some few folks scan ebay for items for movie props..
.(were do you thing they find that stuff?)
600 would be a small price for a correct one..
BTW : thanks for the stright up reason not every one does so..
 
chickentrax said:
W9SIX's looks older, doesn't it??? :confused:

Older than 47 - 49, I mean...

It should be interesting to see if Joe's knife takes off tomorrow... :)
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Trax, You are right, it does look older. It may be because Joe cleaned his a little and this one evidently hasn't been. I have no doubt that Joe's will take off and go higher. His last one sold for $531.
 
That auction makes mention of a pommel rivet dating the knife to group 2 or 3. my knife has a little dimple behind the lucite rings too, that looks like a finished rivet. Is that what they're talking about? and, I apologize partly for not cleaning mine, but wanted to avoid any damage to it. The longer, thinner bladed cousin I previously sold went for $635 if I remember correctly. Is there a model number for my knife like the 105 mentioned above? Need some better pics? Thanks again for all the helpful info. Matt
 
One more thing. I noticed mine has a dot stamped on each side of the name Buck on the blade. the one on the auction has no visible dots. maybe that helps in the dating process too?
 
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That auction makes mention of a pommel rivet dating the knife to group 2 or 3. my knife has a little dimple behind the lucite rings too, that looks like a finished rivet. Is that what they're talking about? and, I apologize partly for not cleaning mine, but wanted to avoid any damage to it. The longer, thinner bladed cousin I previously sold went for $635 if I remember correctly. Is there a model number for my knife like the 105 mentioned above? Need some better pics? Thanks again for all the helpful info. Matt
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I can see a pin through the pommel of your knife. (Butt end). If I were you, I would not clean the knife. Let the buyer either do it or send it to a professional. The skinners had model #s of 110,111,112 and 113. I think your's is a 110, but someone besides me needs to verify that. (Joe Houser)
 
W9SIX said:
One more thing. I noticed mine has a dot stamped on each side of the name Buck on the blade. the one on the auction has no visible dots. maybe that helps in the dating process too?
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I'm pretty sure of the date, but someone else should confirm that. The one on auction does not have any dots before or after BUCK. It is an earleir model, made from 1946-47.
 
W9SIX said:
...I apologize partly for not cleaning mine, but wanted to avoid any damage to it...
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And quite wise, too...There are some collectors who believe that the "patina" on an older knife should be left intact, and that cleaning/polishing/buffing destroys its collectibility... :)
 
chickentrax said:
There are some, like 334dave, who will go though all 1971+ "Buck" auctions looking for deals...or rare knives, like yours... :p

My $.02 would be to go with eBay and not accept any offers by email...or at least wait until your auction is over...

A handmade Hoyt Buck is worth...whatever the buyer will pay... :D
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trax once again has hit several nails on the head...

i do go and look at all 2189 buck listings ...
lot of folks after fewer bucks... kinda
like buncha hogs afer a few acorns.....:grumpy:
 
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Well, I wanted to wait a couple days before putting up another reply. I didn't want to be hogging up the top of the page here. I did want to mention though that I've put some consideration into keeping this knife, as HK mentioned above. The market is down alot and it's not eating anything. It's not like I'd be using the money from the sale to buy food (not yet anyway), just a toy of some kind. I would like to get the final word from Joe on it though, for future reference. maybe he'll run across this thread at some point. Thanks again for all the replies, advice and opinions. Matt
 
Matt,
I feel I need to put in two cents worth after reading all of this thread. First off, I collect slipjoints I will swear on a big stack of the Good Book that I have no interest in this knife.

That said, I read your posts and you seem to not really have any attachment in the history line, to this knife. But, seem to be considering holding it till the "market" improves. If it is only a item of income value to you, not a heirloom, I will tell you that across this nation of ours there are goodly number of folks who would want that knife in a bad way.

I just can't believe you will ever increase you income on the sale by very much by waiting for a "better" market. Collectors have deep pockets, several of them much deeper than mine, as witnessed by my losses in the auction world. If you sell it as planned in near future I do not believe you will lose money. I do believe our economic world will NEVER be high flying enough again, that values will increase quickly for obscure collectables .

Wait for Joe's report. Fix up good auction. As much publicity as you have gotten here all the Buck Nuts that want a old - highly desireable- fixed blade will be on point. An feel good that you are selling it to someone who will act like a little kid, an may even dance around, when they hold it in their hand for the first time.

Or not, it's your knife. Best of Luck

300Bucks
 
300Bucks said:
...across this nation of ours there are goodly number of folks who would want that knife in a bad way...I just can't believe you will ever increase you income on the sale by very much by waiting for a "better" market....
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+1 on that. The best time to sell is before the market peaks, while buyers are still plentiful...If it means nothing to you, move it now...While those people who missed out on Joe's Lucite handled knife are still kicking themselves for not bidding high enough... :)

No, I don't want it either... :D
 
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