Idaho Teen Is Tied Up and Scalped

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February 8, 2005, 11:43 PM EST

BOISE, Idaho -- A 16-year-old girl was allegedly tied up and scalped with a 4-inch knife in what police say may have been an act of revenge by another woman.

The girl, who had a punk-style mohawk haircut before the attack, is recovering at home. Doctors could not reattach her scalp, which was found near a hot spring.

Police searched for Marianne Dahle, 26, who disappeared after the Jan. 18 attack at Kirkham Hot Springs, about 70 miles from Boise.

"When I say this gal was scalped, she was truly scalped," said Chief Deputy Bill Braddock. "The top of her head, her hair, was completely cut off."

Dahle and the victim, whose name was not released, were longtime acquaintances and hung out with a punk clique, he said.

"The motive, as near as we've been told by witnesses, was retaliation for acting in a way that the adult perceived as being offensive to women as a gender," Braddock said. "According to their creed, if you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...print.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

maximus otter
 
fixer27 said:
Wish her a speedy recovery,
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I don't think there's any such thing as recovery for her. I suspect she'll bear the scars for life.

It's a rather shocking case.
 
The next question is this: Where do you think KV is gonna move this thread to? Could go W&C? How about GB&U since we all seem to agree this is pretty bad and ugly. Maybe political... maybe. Or how about gadgets and gear?
 
"if you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk"

So the solution is to cut off a woman's scalp?!?

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I just read the article, and having been involved in the punk scene for well over 15 years, I would like to say that there is no "creed". it's not like we got a manual, and barring belonging to a group with very specific mores (like straightedgers) there is no way to be a punk "correctly". That woman is a psychopath.
 
Dijos said:
"if you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk"

So the solution is to cut off a woman's scalp?!?

Edited to add:
I just read the article, and having been involved in the punk scene for well over 15 years, I would like to say that there is no "creed". it's not like we got a manual, and barring belonging to a group with very specific mores (like straightedgers) there is no way to be a punk "correctly". That woman is a psychopath.
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My thoughts exactly. This is a truly heinous crime, and punk had nothing to do with it. Nor did knives. Just a psycho "woman."

14 years is way too short a sentence for something like this.
 
I saw some pictures on the news, and it's not pretty.

Here's an idea. If you don't like what someone is doing, F-IN' TELL THEM. They'll either take it or brush you off, but cutting their scalp isn't going to help.
 
This is a little off-topic, but, from all of the Western movies that I watched as a kid, I was under the impression that simply being scalped could kill you. Maybe that's just the impression that a kid watching Westerns got, not necessarily the truth, but this thread has gotten me wondering. If anyone has certainty of that knowledge, it'd be great hearing it. I don't think that it was an immediate death, but that death came through blood loss.

Thanks, GeoThorn

Things are getting really weird these days....
 
I think that the misperception that scalping was a cause of death is common.
Getting scalped in the old west, ot during the french and indian wars probably killed you because there were no skin grafts, and penicillin hadn't been invented yet-you'd die from infection. I believe that the way it usually worked was to kill the person first, then collect the scalp.

But then, I have never scalped anybody.
 
It's the infection that follows that would kill you back in the old west.
No antibiotics back then. So survival was a roll of the dice, more or less.

From what I've read, scalping (before the white man's arrival) was to take the hair from the top of your head, where the hair sort of swirls around.
That was the spot where your soul and spirit would come and go, or some such.
It was not about taking all of the hair, just a silver dollar sized bit, from just the right spot. Small enough to recover from and a mark of shame for the rest of the victim's life.
 
There was no scalping before the English arrived and started paying a bounty for the scalps of their enemies.

The normal procedure was to kill the victim first, but one fellow didn't make sure his victim was actually dead during the Deerfield Massacre, and the man survived.
 
It's truly disturbing what one person will do to another. :confused: There is no fitting punishment for this sort of crime. :mad:

Paul
 
There was no scalping before the English arrived and started paying a bounty for the scalps of their enemies.
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From what I've read, it's unknown if scalping pre-dated the arrival of Europeans or not. The artical stated it's quite possible the Europeans took advantage of existing customs - scalping is not common in Europe. It's also unclear who started it first, the French or English.

Just what I remember reading - I'm not an expert and my memory's not too good anyway. :(

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
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