Idea for a new Blade Material?

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I have been thinking about Talonite lately and wondering if there might be another Wonder Material waiting to be developed.

Talonite has very hard carbides in a soft matrix (Rc 46 or so) and it does a great job based on my limited experience.

The concept I have in mind is basically a Titanium and TiN Damascus.

I believe that Mission Knives is able to harden Titanium into the Low 50's.

The Black Diamond Website that Dexter linked to under the Born Carbide post in What's New indicates the TiN Carbides Rc in the Low 80's and the BC Carbides Rc in the 90's.

If it were possible to coat a thin sheet of Titanium with either TiN or BC and fold it like Damascus you could theoretically get very thin alternating layers of Titanium with an RC in the low 50's and TiN or BC in the 80's or 90's.

I realize that there are probably a whole host of problems with trying something like this especially cost.

What do you think am I thinking too much?

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No, you are thinking just the right amount.

Seriously, it is that sort of what if that makes things happen.

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Based on my limited knowledge, I don't think this idea of "Pattern folded titanium" would work because you can't easily forge titanium or TiN and it will probably not have the sort of weld or bond required to hold together well enough to make a knife.

But history has been full of nay sayers being proved wrong. So... "Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!"
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Ken Onion had a very similar material in a knife at the Eugene Show. Very interesting stuff!
 
I really believe that the biggest obstacle would be cost.

I had actually envisioned that after being folded the stock would be hot rolled in a vacuum chamber of some sort.

I would think that aside from the cost the issues would be how thick to make the layers and what Temperature and Pressure would cause the Titanium Layer to bond to the TiN or BC layer during Hot Rolling.

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