Identification of a Smatchet

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I was wondering if anyone can shed a little light on this Smatchet I acquired.
I assume it is a HI but I am not 100% sure. I tried to get the markings as best as possible.
It is not very sharp, is it for decoration or??
Thanks
Joe


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I think I posted this in the wrong spot, if needed can a Mod move it.
Thanks Joe
 
It's definitely HI for sure. Has the U B Uncle Bill markings. Other than that I'm gonna have to bow to the wiser if not better looking other members for more details.

It's kind of pretty ain't it?

The one mark almost looks like a beer glass, I think that's a Rajkumar marking but that's just a stab in the dark. I won't be able to live with myself if I'm right, I'll feel like the smartest man alive!
 
Hi Joe,

You have the right spot. That is an HI product called the Spear Vala. It is HI's version of the smatchet.
We did a few small runs of them in 2011 to bring back some old styles at my request. Sold every one of them.
It is not for decoration. It is a fully functional smatchet made the same way with the same materials and craftsmanship as our khukuri.
It is made by Bhakkta Kami.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/836301-Spear-Vala-(Smatchet)?highlight=spear+vala
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...Ghost-of-Fairbairns-Past?highlight=spear+vala
 
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Thanks for the info, this thing is a beast!! Extremely heavy and very thick!
 
Like Karda said, they're for full function and use. Mine didn't come stupid-sharp, but with a little time with stone and strop it will more than pop hair. I'd hate to be on the receiving end:eek:
 
This is used for the same thing the F-S Smatchet is designed for. It's primary usage is for killing.

For a blade like that you'd really have to have something worth killing.

Or you can just handle and admire it, thus killing time.
 
the smatchet was f/s 's ww2 update of this ww1 welsh trench (short) sword - with folding guard.
my repo:
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1/4 " thick, 17.5" blade, 3" wide, loa 24", 33 oz.

one is on display at the royal welsh fusiliers museum at caernarfon castle in wales.

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They were financed by Lord Howard de Waldron of Chirk Castle and presented to the 9th Battalion RWF. Supposedly based on a medieval Welsh sword pattern: the hinged hilt guard was officially patented. Within the battalion they were issued to machine-gunners and possibly other specialists such as bombers. Some blades are engraved "Dros Urddas Cymru" (For The Honour Of Wales).

Another who may have used one was A.O.Vaughan (aka "Owen Roscomyl"), a writer and adventurer who spent time as a cowboy in the American West and fought in the Boer War, before raising the Welsh Horse in 1914. His biographer Bryn Owen found tantalisingly little about his WW1 service even though he rose to Lieut-Colonel rank (in the Northumberland Fusiliers). He turns up briefly in a Welsh-language autobiography by E.Beynon Davies, an officer of the 19th (Bantams) RWF, where he's described as giving bloodthirsty advice to the troops and carrying an unusual short sword. He actually signed one month of the unit War Diary in 1916 as acting CO, so it wasn't a mistake on Davies' part. He was best friends with de Waldron and a Welsh nationalist, so it's not unlikely he got one.
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it and the smatchet is essentially used the same as a roman legionary's gladius was in the roman legions for many centuries. a memorandum, dated 27 January 1920, which relates to information on the knife supplied by Colonel H Lloyd Williams, late commander of the 9th Battalion, RWF(Lord de Walden commanded the battalion between September and December 1917; Lloyd Williams succeeded to command October 1918). The memorandum states- "9th Batt'n RWF. This battalion made use of a knife with which all machine gunners and bombers were always equipped. Every member of a raiding party was so armed and in one raid on the Messines Ridge two days before the battle of Messines they were used with conspicuous success. They were provided by Lord Howard de Walden and were a replica of a weapon used by Ancient Welsh tribes. They were double-edged, but were intended more for bayoneting than cutting".
 
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