Identification request: Decorative sword from Spain 1980's

myu

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I had long forgotten about my very first "sword" purchase, when I managed to unearth it the other day while at my parent's home over the holidays. The memories came flooding back, as if they were recent. I remember the day so clearly, back in the early summer of 1988. It was bright and sunny, seasonably warm, and I was walking through the side streets in the suburbs of Madrid, when a rather unusual looking antique shop caught my eye. Back in those days, crappy souvenir swords were easily found almost anywhere. I was in my 20's, and I was clueless about swords, but aware of the "rip offs" rampant among local sellers eager to lure cash flush Americans seeking a sword.

I wandered into the shop. It wasn't dedicated to weaponry, but seemed to have decent quality antique home furnishings all about. As I roamed about, I came upon a section that had some daggers and swords. Some looked like antiques, what appeared to be realistic to me due to the materials and fitment quality, and some modern examples. One of the decorative swords that was easy to sell was the King Arthur style "Excalibur" sword, the one with the large disc shaped pommel. I couldn't stand those. When I saw a few there, I was immediately turned off. But I decided to check and see what else might be there. Beneath a few others, I unearthed something interesting, in a semi-translucent thick plastic covering. At first I thought it was a Conan Atlantean sword replica, based on the shape. From what I'd seen by that time, nobody made a good replica of that sword (certainly not like Marto, and definitely nowhere near anything like Albion). And when I removed the plastic, it was revealed that this indeed wasn't an Atlantean replica. Still, I really liked the shape and design work of the grip, cross-guard, and pommel. Plus I appreciated the light symmetrical etching on both sides of the blade just past the cross-guard that looked pleasantly decorative.

I managed to walk away with this sword for under $***. I had no idea if I overpaid or underpaid for it. But even though it's just a decorative sword, it is very solidly built, has beautiful ornamentation, and the polished blade looks very professionally done. I took it home with me and I displayed it in my first two apartments, then it was misplaced and presumed lost. Anyway... I've managed to find it. It looks exactly the same as it did when I first bought it. The polished steel looks magnificent, with no scratches or nicks.

Based on how the hardware looks to have been die cast (although all seams were smoothed over--there's no flashing or obvious seams), it must have been mass produced. I can't find a maker's mark anywhere on it, unless it's "hidden" in some of the design work. The very tip of the blade is semi-sharp but the rest of the blade is smooth; definitely meant as a decorative item. The blade shape is hexagonal, and while there is some profile tapering, I don't really see much distal taper at all. The overall length is just over 38" and the blade is 31" where it disappears into the cross-guard. Some photos are below (sorry they're not very good quality--was a bit of a rush job).

Does anybody have any idea who the maker might be? Is it possible that it's an early Marto? Is it likely a common/uncommon sword model? If there's a design name for this type of sword or other form of identification that could be used to find out more about it, I'd appreciate learning this! :)

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Heh... a little persistent Google searching and I found something rather interesting and... well, a bit disappointing. My instincts were right. This is very likely an early Marto replica. I found a Viking Sword made by Marto that looks strikingly similar. While some of the design elements are different, others are spot on.

Well, I wasn't expecting this to be worth anything unusual, and didn't have plans to sell it anyway. But I suppose if I did want to sell it, there might be a "vintage" Marto collector out there who might be interested. ;)
 
Beat me to it. Decorative sword like object, has design elements from various extant viking relics and some things purely made up. Value is nominal.

I'm wondering if after you had left the shop they put another one in the bucket for someone else to "discover." :)
 
I'd have to dig through one of the Oakeshott books. the Archaeology bokk methinks. It is the relic sword that was found with the scabbard throat fitting fused to the guard. That makes it look like an extra decorative guard but that was originally two pieces.

As such, it was based on an extant relic find but I can't recall the specifics off the top of my head.

Cheers

GC
 
I'd have to dig through one of the Oakeshott books. the Archaeology bokk methinks. It is the relic sword that was found with the scabbard throat fitting fused to the guard. That makes it look like an extra decorative guard but that was originally two pieces.

As such, it was based on an extant relic find but I can't recall the specifics off the top of my head.

Cheers

GC


I think it is in Pierce's book and you are correct the "cross" on this one is a misinterpration of a cross and throat fitting on an original sword. There's plenty more "wrong" with this sword but I don't know if it's worth belaboring the point...
 
Beat me to it. Decorative sword like object, has design elements from various extant viking relics and some things purely made up. Value is nominal. I'm wondering if after you had left the shop they put another one in the bucket for someone else to "discover." :)
Oh yes, no doubt that there's no "Viking Collector" value at all, especially where incorrectly represented ornamental elements are concerned. I'm just wondering if there are early Marto sword replicas that are uncommon to find, that some collectors may be interested in from that standpoint. In any case, based on the price I paid and the cost of Marto swords back then, I wasn't ripped off. Marto doesn't make outright crap (although that's a matter of opinion, I'm sure). It seems their quality is commensurate with their price points most of the time.
 
Marto doesn't make outright crap (although that's a matter of opinion, I'm sure). It seems their quality is commensurate with their price points most of the time.

Agreed there. Their decorative stuff is typically much nicer than the decorative stuff from elsewhere.
 
Oh yes, no doubt that there's no "Viking Collector" value at all, especially where incorrectly represented ornamental elements are concerned. I'm just wondering if there are early Marto sword replicas that are uncommon to find, that some collectors may be interested in from that standpoint. In any case, based on the price I paid and the cost of Marto swords back then, I wasn't ripped off. Marto doesn't make outright crap (although that's a matter of opinion, I'm sure). It seems their quality is commensurate with their price points most of the time.

Marto also gets knocked-off, so is the OP sword a Marto or a knockoff of a Marto sword?

n2s
 
^ I have held a Marto sword in my hands before, n2s. This seems to be the same kind of quality... maybe even better than what's made currently. The blade looks really terrific, definitely a quality polished steel and not some chrome facsimile. There are some imperfections, but very slight and only visible under just the right lighting condition. Overall, it's a beautiful piece and I don't plan to part with it.

In any case, I would like to know more about this particular model. The recent Viking (Erik the Red) Sword model made by Marto has some notable differences, especially where the blade is concerned. The newer one has a prominent fuller along the upper half, and it's clearly signed with Marto's logo. While mine doesn't have a fuller, the applique on the blade is unusual (compared to other Marto swords I've perused on-line), and there isn't a Marto signature to be found anywhere. Given the significant quality that went into this sword, I can't see it being a knock-off.
 
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