Identify five tinders from where you sit

A tinder must be dry, have edges, and allow oxygen to flow within it to work (there are exceptions...petroleum or resin based prducts to name a few). The easiest way to know if a tinder will work or not is to try it. Once prepared as listed above (unless it meets the exception liste)...try it...How do you think someone found out that belly button lint worked...:>)

Question: Sitting where you are, look around and Identify 5 things that you think would work as a tinder but have never seen used before (or heard of). If you can't come up with five...we'll except less.

My answer:

1. Fuzz off of my dorfman hat.
2. plastic scrapings off of my RX bottle.
3. Picture frame scrapings.
4. carpet lint.
5. broken down dried flower arrangement.

Good luck...use your imagination...never limit yourself.

PS: MM makes a good point...you may want to post your answer before reading everyone elses. :>)

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1. plstic excelsior stuff used in packing
2. cardboard box the excelsior is in
3. bottle of ethanol packed in the box
4. dried peat moss on plant growth stand
5. wooly shirt hanging on coat rack
6. J cloth
7. memo from my boss

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1. mouse ball fuzz (minor surgery needed
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2. cubicle wall covering
3. carpet fuzz
4. tons of paper
5. removable ceiling tiles (easily crumble)

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Hi Greg...

Ok..I'll bite...

1. Hemp burlap coaster
2. Several books of matchs (paper)
3. My Cotton shirt
4.cigerette butts
5.Wine cork
6. Belly button Fuzz
7. My fire kit behind me with at least 4 types of tinder inside..
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ttyle Eric...

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Eric E. Noeldechen
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Eric,

The winer cork. Have you ever tried it? If you have a metal match...would you mind seeing how it works. I'm sure it will light with matches, etc. but would like to hear if you have problems getting it to lite from a spark.

You probably know already but you'll need to break the cork down until it has fine edges to catch the spark. Make sure no moisture from the wine is left on the cork and that the fine peices are placed so that oxygen can circulate within it.

I've never used a wine cork and would like to see if it works but...don't think I can do that right now...

Thanks buddy...

Note: For you perfectionists out there :>), I realize there are different types of cork density, etc. This is just a gross test.

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Okay, before I read anybody else's answers:
1) The pile of my sweat shirt.
2) Pocket lint.
3) The stuffing in my chair.
4) The insullation fill in my jacket.
5) The insullation in my soft lunch cooler thing.

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I am sitting in my office area where I work. Looking around me I see;
1. Books over 100 years old.
2. What little hair my employer has.
3. The shirt my employer is wearing.
4. A napkin from Arbys.
5. A pretty remarkable wig some old lady is wearing...looks like she uses hairspray on it.

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Piece of my arm chair, piece of the cushion from my computer pad, piece of my mouse pad, piece of my curtains. This is what I can see. Geoff.
 
From where I sit 1) shreded paper 2)dried leaves in some pot-porrie kinda bowl 3)cotton balls 4) My wifes persian cat (of course I would have put several bullet holes through it to allow enough oxygen flow). 5) Lint from the inside of a rolled up sleeping bag..
 
Between the wig and the cat...I am going to have to stop reading these posts...your making me laugh...and that doesn't feel good. :>) Rob, I love the way you made sure oxygen flowed through the cat tinder.

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The Wife but she is like a cat and needs some extra holes for a good O2 flow
Toliet paper
Toliet cleaner
WD40
Klenex
Towel fuzz
Feminine Hygiene products (Kotex pads)
Gunpowder
Firecrackers
Qtips
Cotton Balls (ever wonder where these came from???)
Finger nail pollish remover

Sure glad the phone cord reaches in here, I've done some of my best work sitting on the throne!! But then again you should see the looks I get from the wife and kids after a hour or so
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I have a LOT within sight as I can see the living room and the kitchen and the front YARD!
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Paper
Dried leaves, plant material, garbage in the neighbors yard from garbage day.
Christmas tree
Christmas ornaments!
Diaper
straw wrapper
pillow stuffing
lint from couch
lint from stuffed animals
mop threads
fake plant
thread from the bobbins in the sewing machine
potato chips-I understand they burn well from another thread!!
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styrofoam cup
fruit peeling and apple stems

That's about all I can come up with for now, I'm sure I'll see more as I sit here and think about more! LOL
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Hi Greg...

Ok here my results..

First off I tried shaving thin pieces off the cork.Worked Ok,, but was difficault.
I then used the saw off my SAK drawing the blade across the cork to produce powder.

In a nice little fluffy pile I tried numerous times to throw a spark into the pile with a 1/2"dia Ferro Rod. No luck.. I tried this with both piles. Although some of the bigger sparks did char the cork dust, there was No coal.

Before I continue. I did manage to partially catch my work bench on fire. Seems a rogue spark got to my newspaper collection on the second shelf! Geez!! Ok,, Once small fire was put out..LOL

Second test I did with my Doan tool, shaving off about a dimes worth of magnesium and placed ontop of the cork dust.

This time it did go, producing enough heat and flame to ignite most of the pile of dust, and probably any small dry tinder that was placed on it.

So to summerize this I had good results using the cork with magnesium tinder,, but not on it's own. It may have worked using a different type of cork,I don't know...

My thinking is that the cork dust is probably too dense to ignite, although you would almost think it would go right up...

i'd be interested in hearing any results from other people who want to try this test. Maybe someone can do it...

Also,, you might want to Remember to do this in an area where there are No Smoke Detectors! and before 11:30 when everyone is sleeping!!
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ttyle Eric...

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Eric E. Noeldechen
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Eric,

good for you...trying new things like that. I want to try...but not sure I can position myself appropriately to strike the sparker into the tinder.

Sounds like everything you did was right. The only thing I wonder about...Did you have a good handful of the cork tinder. I find that hard to light tinders work better when I prepare a big handful.

has anyone else tried? Once my back settles down...I have to try this.... we know it will burn based on Erics results (secondary tinder)... but will it lit from a spark????

Once again...congrats on your desire to try new things. :>)

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Hi Guys...

Ok after trying it one more time using a slightly different approach I did have Ignition...

This time instead of grinding away at it with the saw, I used the file (fine side) of my Gerber Multi tool. This produced ultra fine dust, that did ignite on the third swipe off the 1/2" Ferro Rod. I used the 1/2" rod rather than the small rod on the Doan tool,,because it throws wicked sparks. I don't see why the Doan tool's match wouldn't work though.

Ignition was pretty good although the flame was pretty unstable and went out fairly easy.
The pile of dust had to be freshened up repeatedly and didn't ignite as well as the first time.

ttyle Eric...

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Eric E. Noeldechen
On/Scene Tactical
http://www.mnsi.net/~nbtnoel


 
Eric,

great!!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew you could do it. the tinder met the criteria:

1. it was dry,
2. It allowed oxygen to circulate within it,
3. It had edges for the sparks to catch.

Has anyone else tried one of the tinders they mentioned that they may of had reservations about?

I'm not advocating shoting that cat :>)...just trying a new tinder.

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Greg Davenport
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Stupid me got to playing with sparks tonight.
Tried pulling a 45ACP round apart and putting the gunpowder on a shredded cotton ball that was sitting on a maxi pad that was semi shredded with a teepee of q-tips around the entire thing. Took a gerber strike force and with the maxi pad in the bathtub started making sparkes. After the 3rd try we got a nice ball of flame that lit the entire mess right up
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Only thing though you should have seen the wifes face when she came running hearing my woops of joy!!!!!

Now I'm banned from playing with gunpowder and/or sparks for the rest of my life
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You have got to stop giving me such bad ideas!!!!!!
 
Tinder:
1) The stocking from my "Secret Santa" (after removing booze)
2) Stack of unread Wall Street Journals
3) Selected Clients (ventilate thouroughly to insure O2 flow and add accelerant as needed)
4) To Do List
5) Faxes
It has been a bad week... can't you tell?

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