IF Bm's didnt exist would Jags and Bears still be Crap?

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Hm, this may become a flame war but I allways wondered, personally I look at a BM42 and go, yeah right, to much money for a knife, I think the jags are nice and even rostfrei has its place, if all you are doing is fliping them, with a little editing(repining and adjusting) they work pretty good, although this is from limited experience, but to start the flame war, What would you buy if BM never existed? And would you still think that Jag and Bear are crap?

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I never thought Jags were all that bad, and I own two 42's. Sure, they aren't great, but they are durable, come with and retake a razor edge (at least mine do), and hold out for a long time. I don't think they compare to things like the AFCK for overall quality, but for price point, they are great users/ abusers and good little knives. That said, in the world were BM does exist, buy a Jag to see if you like it, and if you do, go full bore and buy a set of 42's (unless you onl have one arm, then its ok to have one). E
 
If BM didn't exist I would just buy PC Bali-Songs
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I rediscovered balisongs when i learned about the BM42. If they didn't exist then i'd probably wouldn't be into balisongs anymore.

I would be flicking a folder instead of flipping a balisong.
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Where the gap really exists is in the lack of Japan made butterfly knives available in this country right now. People want to Americanize the butterfly knife, and make it their very own. But it's heart and soul is really in the Asian culture. Americans can copy them from a mechanical aspect. But there is just something missing in the western versions, that you have to go to Japan or the Philippines to find. The China version is really just a rip off copy. But they are starting to make a butterfly in China now, that is a higher quality item. Still, it's just a mass produced mechanical copy of a knife intended to be marketed to Americans. But the mega buck people who import these things do listen to people. First the buyers were complaining that the pins were to tight. So they started making them loose as a goose, and no one complained about it for a long time. Now that people are complaining a lot about the pins again, they are starting to market a new China model, in respose to their complaints. They even threw in a better blade and a nicer color finish on the handle. But they still lack the flow, charactor and artistic integerity of the Japan and Philippine made knives. What I think would help, would be a off set pattern to the holes in the handle, that would give the knife a sense of spinning or motion, even when they are just sitting there. Thanks, JohnR7 www.BalisongKnife.com
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I've never handled one, but I'll wager that some of those knives coming out of the Philippines are damn good knives. Some of the people there must be third, forth, and fifth generation bali makers. Maybe more. So, if there were no Benchmade, I'd probably take a short trip to the Philippines and waltz up and down Batangas looking for a good bali.

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If Benchmade balis didn't exist, Jags wouldn't exist. I'm not sure, but weren't the Jags based on the BMs? To my understanding, they're just copies of the BMs.

I actually like the Jags... I wouldn't call them crap, cause in my opinion they are nicer than most of the china cheapies and rostfreis. I'd also get a few rostfreis.

Heh... balisongman.. (referring to "if there weren't BMs, I'd get PC"
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