If they cost the the same, which to choose fuhrman final judgement or ESEE junglas

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Would like to know I the 3v judgement or 1095 jungles get the nod. Very similar in size, but what about feel, quality, and longevity. Remember the idea is they cost the same, theoretically speaking.
 
lot of jungles fans - get an axe and good knife instead of an all in one. i do have a hoodlum myself but i not a big baton fan

read this review on the new crt axe: http://www.survivalblog.com/2013/05/pats-product-review-crkt-kangee-t-hawk.html

interesting that he throws it and beats it up, for the price of junglas you can get the axe and a good knife!

i think i use this and knife since i always carry 3 knives, even if i am traveling i have 3 or 4 - usally only one fixed blade packed. I am big on being legal.


3v is new - this review does not sound so good so if your on either or go with the 1095

http://www.cliffstamp.com/knives/reviews/extreme_judgement.html
 
Only Cliff Stamp reviewed that 3V steel has mediocre performance. Nevertheless many other famous knife makers said 3V is the best overall steel can be use, eg. Dwyer, Jerry Hossom, Jake Hoback etc.

Obviously Cliff Stamp just fall towards Busse's INFI steel too much.. I own 5 Busse knives, 3 of them is user, from my experience INFI has so-so edge retention...
I don't think anyone should cling to Cliff review in anyhow, just too much bias.
 
The final judgement has a flaccid look to it that makes me question my masculinity. The Junglas and RTAK have the best ergos on a large production I have tried. The one I really do like on this big chopper trend is the Cold Steel Trailmaster (regardless of SK5 or Carbon 5 or the new 01, I suspect)because the clip point and blade forward weight feel good as well. If the Dogfather was a regular production knife then that would round out the top four those res C grips feel right and the edge retention is VERY good.
 
Zombie Zeke said:
The final judgement has a flaccid look to it that makes me question my masculinity. The Junglas and RTAK have the best ergos on a large production I have tried. The one I really do like on this big chopper trend is the Cold Steel Trailmaster (regardless of SK5 or Carbon 5 or the new 01, I suspect)because the clip point and blade forward weight feel good as well. If the Dogfather was a regular production knife then that would round out the top four those res C grips feel right and the edge retention is VERY good.
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You like the ergos on the RTAK? I’ve got big hands, but that slab handle was too much for me.

So RTAK II and I spent some quality time with a belt sander. It ended up with halfway decent ergonomics. Nothing to write home about, but I’m no longer reluctant to use it as a trail knife.

I’d trade two of them for one Dogfather.
 
Fehrman. 3V and probably a better grind to boot? What's the conversation about? :confused:
 
That's a no brainer question, ESEE would cost you less than 200$ while Fehrman was 450$ without kydex...
 
I have the final judgement. It's tougher, has better wear resistance and is more resistant to corrosion.

There's no comparison. They are in different classes. I like the Final judgement better than the extreme for my uses. I have better control and more accurate swings and better velocity. That's important to an older guy like me that has shoulder reconstructions and some other problems. I swing a lighter axe, and maul now I'm older too when I do it at all. When I was young I swung the heaviest I could find.

Things change.
 
Styg said:
I'd feel extremely juvenile buying a knife named "final judgement".
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Compared to "Nuclear Meltdown Fusion Battle Mistress", I think "Final Judgment" sounds quite reasonable. To be honest though, I did pick up a NMFSHCG in part because of it's name. If my knife is ever brought up in conversation I think "steel heart" sounds quite noble.


I'd get the FJ (vs. Junglas) every time, mostly just because I have a soft spot for 3V, but I also like the styling more, and it sounds like Fehrman has the edge in heat treating.
That said, I'm sure any real world difference is going to be so small that both knives will work almost exactly the same.
 
I've spent the last week using a Junglas to clear 4 acres of overgrown blackberry plants. I can say without any doubt that it is a fantastic heavy machete/chopping knife. It's worth considering that it also has one of the best sheath setups available in a production knife.


Steel quality has very little bearing on a hard use tool like that. Both are quality steels that'll get beaten on, so a tiny bit of edge retention won't matter one bit when comparing the two. Toughness also won't make much difference - if you hit plant matter, you won't see a difference. If you hit rocks, no steel is gonna shrug that off. Style and ergos are really all that matter.
 
shqxk said:
Only Cliff Stamp reviewed that 3V steel has mediocre performance. Nevertheless many other famous knife makers said 3V is the best overall steel can be use, eg. Dwyer, Jerry Hossom, Jake Hoback etc.

Obviously Cliff Stamp just fall towards Busse's INFI steel too much.. I own 5 Busse knives, 3 of them is user, from my experience INFI has so-so edge retention...
I don't think anyone should cling to Cliff review in anyhow, just too much bias.
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Um, what? So Cliff Stamp said something positive about INFI and something negative about 3V therefore he's biased? Perhaps you should know what you are talking about before you spout off.

Cliff Stamp is the most unbiased knife reviewer I've ever come across on the internets. When he says something people don't want to hear they slander him. If he says something contrary to what a "big name" knife maker says the fan boys come out in droves to slander Cliff.

Cliff is a scientist and knives are his hobby. He approaches cutlery as a scientist, using the scientific method, as opposed to most knife knuts who throw adjectives at whatever knife they happen to think looks good that day.
 
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