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Bob. I don't think ThomM meant anything.
Some of us get upset when we see people listing current production items on auction at full retail.
Anything over full retail on current production items is stealing to me.
I know some people will say, let the buyer beware, but sometimes I E-mail the auctionees and tell them where they can buy it cheaper.
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RICK - Left Handers Unite
Some of us get upset when we see people listing current production items on auction at full retail.
Anything over full retail on current production items is stealing to me.
I know some people will say, let the buyer beware, but sometimes I E-mail the auctionees and tell them where they can buy it cheaper.
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RICK - Left Handers Unite
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If a willing buyer knowingly pays a premium for immediate delivery of a knife that's chronically back-ordered, it ain't stealing.
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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
James, I agree there are some exceptions.
But some sellers do this to catch people
I've been caught.
When they start by saying "great deal" or "at only" and it's full retail???
I don't think decorated Sebenzas are chronically back-ordered.
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But some sellers do this to catch people
I've been caught.
When they start by saying "great deal" or "at only" and it's full retail???
I don't think decorated Sebenzas are chronically back-ordered.
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From Chris Reeve decorated Sebenza six months.
Matt D
Matt D
If a dealer does not currently have a decorated Sebenza in stock and somebody walks up with cash in hand to buy, you do in fact have a long wait because they are in fact back ordered.
The reason dealers like myself have them in stock is because we ordered them 6 months or more back.
Stay Sharp,
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The reason dealers like myself have them in stock is because we ordered them 6 months or more back.
Stay Sharp,
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Remember, we're not talking about food or fuel here. If a price for a decorated Sebenza, (or any other Sebenza, for that matter) is listed higher than retail, you don't have to buy it. You don't need it.
You can pay the higher price for the privelege of immediate delivery or you can not pay the price and wait like the rest of us did. (The current wait is closer to nine months than six on decorated models.) The decorated Sebenzas cost more for the same reason that a Mercedes costs more than a Ford or a Chevy. If you want a cheap knife buy a Benchmade.
As a reputable dealer, I resent the accusation of stealing simply because I charge a premium for a high demand, hard to get, unique item. If the market supports the price (and it does) then I see nothing wrong with charging the price.
This is America, a capitalist country. I am a capitalist. I am in business to make a profit. That's how I am able to increase my inventory and offer more high quality knives for sale. Its called Business.
My Decorated Sebenzas go fo $450.00 large and $415.00 small, shipping included. If you don't want to pay the price then, by all means, go somewhere else, please. Just keep your insults to yourself.
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Dennis Wright
Wright Knife & Sporting Goods
1-800-400-1980
("Have a knife day!")
wrightknife@ixpres.com
You can pay the higher price for the privelege of immediate delivery or you can not pay the price and wait like the rest of us did. (The current wait is closer to nine months than six on decorated models.) The decorated Sebenzas cost more for the same reason that a Mercedes costs more than a Ford or a Chevy. If you want a cheap knife buy a Benchmade.
As a reputable dealer, I resent the accusation of stealing simply because I charge a premium for a high demand, hard to get, unique item. If the market supports the price (and it does) then I see nothing wrong with charging the price.
This is America, a capitalist country. I am a capitalist. I am in business to make a profit. That's how I am able to increase my inventory and offer more high quality knives for sale. Its called Business.
My Decorated Sebenzas go fo $450.00 large and $415.00 small, shipping included. If you don't want to pay the price then, by all means, go somewhere else, please. Just keep your insults to yourself.
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Dennis Wright
Wright Knife & Sporting Goods
1-800-400-1980
("Have a knife day!")
wrightknife@ixpres.com
"My Decorated Sebenzas go fo $450.00 large and $415.00 small, shipping included. If you don't want to pay the price then, by all means, go somewhere else, please. Just keep your insults to yourself."
Dennis, I was not insulting anyone. I don't even know who you are. I was only expressing my opionion about auctions.
But with prices like that and your attitude, you could be headed to the good, bad and ugly.
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RICK - Left Handers Unite
Dennis, I was not insulting anyone. I don't even know who you are. I was only expressing my opionion about auctions.
But with prices like that and your attitude, you could be headed to the good, bad and ugly.
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RICK - Left Handers Unite
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Actually, for being an "in stock" knife, with no wait, and including shipping, I frankly don't think Dennis' prices were all that outrageous. JMHO, though.
There are dealers out there who would love to gouge a customer, like one I recently came across trying to get $525 for decorated large Sebenzas at a knife show. And this was in a venue with people and customers who should know better. Perhaps he learned his lesson, as I didn't notice any Sebenzas gone when I stopped by his table at the end of the day.
If I were in the market for a decorated Sebenza, and I saw one with a design that caused me to crack a woodie, and could walk away with it right then and there, or I could have delivered to my doorstep the next day, I would consider a small premium for something I really want. That's my prerogative. If the E-bay Sebenza goes, then it goes, at whatever price someone is willing to pay. If nobody is willing to start a bidding process at a suggested retail price, then it'll fall into the E-bay purgatory of un-bidden merchandise, and the seller may rethink his strategy and try again in what the market deems a more appropriate opening bid.
This whole issue reminds me that one of the basics of capitalism is that something is worth what the market will bear. If the market bears a small markup, then that's simply the way it goes. The same with a large markup.
Reminds me of an article I read a short time ago in Automotive News. According to this article, the average profit to Chrysler, before dealer markups, etc., on a Grand Cherokee, was about $6800. Yep, $6800! And that didn't include the dealer! Funny thing is, people are still waiting in line and placing orders on vehicles that may carry a total profit markup of 25-35% of their total price. Why? Because people want them and are willing to pay a price that the market is dictating. If people stop buying them, you'll see price corrections, reductions, rebates, yada, yada, yada. This shouldn't be news to any of us.
Nobody is forcing anybody to pay a premium for a knife, especially a very nice knife that may be considered by many to be a luxury. Only the person who wants a specific knife can determine if paying a premium or markup is worth foregoing a waiting period due to backorder or production demands.
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Don LeHue
Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings...they did it by killing all those who opposed them.
There are dealers out there who would love to gouge a customer, like one I recently came across trying to get $525 for decorated large Sebenzas at a knife show. And this was in a venue with people and customers who should know better. Perhaps he learned his lesson, as I didn't notice any Sebenzas gone when I stopped by his table at the end of the day.
If I were in the market for a decorated Sebenza, and I saw one with a design that caused me to crack a woodie, and could walk away with it right then and there, or I could have delivered to my doorstep the next day, I would consider a small premium for something I really want. That's my prerogative. If the E-bay Sebenza goes, then it goes, at whatever price someone is willing to pay. If nobody is willing to start a bidding process at a suggested retail price, then it'll fall into the E-bay purgatory of un-bidden merchandise, and the seller may rethink his strategy and try again in what the market deems a more appropriate opening bid.
This whole issue reminds me that one of the basics of capitalism is that something is worth what the market will bear. If the market bears a small markup, then that's simply the way it goes. The same with a large markup.
Reminds me of an article I read a short time ago in Automotive News. According to this article, the average profit to Chrysler, before dealer markups, etc., on a Grand Cherokee, was about $6800. Yep, $6800! And that didn't include the dealer! Funny thing is, people are still waiting in line and placing orders on vehicles that may carry a total profit markup of 25-35% of their total price. Why? Because people want them and are willing to pay a price that the market is dictating. If people stop buying them, you'll see price corrections, reductions, rebates, yada, yada, yada. This shouldn't be news to any of us.
Nobody is forcing anybody to pay a premium for a knife, especially a very nice knife that may be considered by many to be a luxury. Only the person who wants a specific knife can determine if paying a premium or markup is worth foregoing a waiting period due to backorder or production demands.
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Don LeHue
Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings...they did it by killing all those who opposed them.