If You Hate Politics, Why Are You bitching about the threads?

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Explain it to me- anyone. It's fine with me if you don't like political threads, poltiics, or any NON KNIFE subject, but why spend time is those threads you dislike complaining about them, threatening to have them removed, insulting people ??(like a forumite who just happens to live in Japan- why insult him for that??!!)

I don't get it. If I see a thread I don't like very much, I don't show up and insist it leave. Isn't that what the individual decides?

It boggles my mind. When a martial arts thread got so heated that threats were being made, my contribution at that time was to attempt to reach peace, and that failing, to call to the attention of those making threats that this was innappriopriate. Good things came of that.

Telling other forumites we can't have martial arts threads would never have occured to me.

Why don't I show up in a thread you think personally important, and blow it up- troll it- make it go away? Because that is exactly what some forumites think it is fair to do with a political thread.

If it's good for the Goose- think about it.


munk
 
For me the question is "why did I go into a thread that I knew was going to be negative--knowing that those type of threads bother me?" Well, that's a valid question. I guess because I like America and I was curious how N.O. was the "shame of America". I guess my opening the thread was due to the same thing that causes people to rubberneck at an accident.

Yep I should've keep on moving but I got sucked in.

I guess it's like TV and radio: if you don't like what's on change the channel.
 
Well, we have a New Orleans thread where this is happening- but we've had other threads. It never fails that a person who does not like politcs discussed on the Cantina shows up and complains. If that wasn't enough, they sometimes actively egg on and troll in hopes the thread gets locked or moved.

I got angry- I'm not angry anymore. What good does getting angry at anger do? Because that's pretty much it- the dissenters are angry- and it shows.

For all those who like to avoid 'trouble', you are missing an essential feature of some of the more dangerous threads- the good stuff. The peace- the connections, the sudden humility- good stuff.

Even new friends get made.

munk
 
Wow munk I am sort of going through this myself. You really made some good points there. I started a thread called how can we make the Practical Tactical forum better because I thought there was too much disrepect and bashing of posters. No sense of community. You got me thinking maybe instead of advocating for community and respect I need to just choose the thread or forum where people are talking and relating to others in a way that matches what I believe. And maybe need to face the fact that that doesnt happen so much here in Bladeforums.
 
It doesn't happen much anywhere-

If you were gutsy enough to post such a thread about having a good dialogue, well, the Tactical place should be thankful. But I am glad to see you here.
We have our 'disagreeable moments', but I like to think, insist upon thinking, that the best in humans will come through- and mostly, it does. In me too.

Lennon called it the 'green eyed god damn straight from the soul'. I like to think we need our peacemaking best efforts- but we need room for honest pathos and emotion too, or this is not HI forum, a refuge and a redemption.

munk
 
Thanks munk you were my redemption for today, you gave me inspiration and the juice to keep doing my best in my life and here on BF. I hope I meet you again soon.
 
I guess I missed the excitement as usual, but it's easy to agree. That's what the Cantina is for, off-topic discussions. Why participate if you are upset that the topic is even broached? If we start banning certain topics it will never end.

(OR we'll end up debating such important topics as "Waxed or Unwaxed? The Floss Controversy Continues!" :D)
 
I like to see political threads in the political forum, because that is really where they belong, and I won't read them, since I usually stay out of there. In a friendly, laid back forum like the cantina, what is the point in creating threads destined to cause tension? I think it is a bad idea in general. If you don't believe me, start a thread about Abortion and see how it goes. Basically, the more sensitive the issue, the worse it goes.

Truthfully, I didn't even open the New Orleans thread because I knew what it contained and I have no interest in reading a bunch of negativity.
 
Svashtar said:
I guess I missed the excitement as usual, but it's easy to agree. That's what the Cantina is for, off-topic discussions. Why participate if you are upset that the topic is even broached? If we start banning certain topics it will never end.

(OR we'll end up debating such important topics as "Waxed or Unwaxed? The Floss Controversy Continues!" :D)
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Mint, cinnamon, or plain? Floss or Tape? :D
 
Copied to Back end, deleted a trash post.

Step one, document (done). Step two, counsel user (done). Step three, ban button...Benchmadenut, keep your stuff in the W&C...not here please.
 
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This has got to be as outstandingly useless a post as I can imagine. Most of it is attacking someone for what he MIGHT do IN YOUR IMAGINATION. The vulgarity tossed in -- inappropriately in this forum -- only makes your lack of fitness to participate in intelligent society more obvious.

Banning is too good for you.
 
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Uh, BenchmadeNut, you obviously have good taste in knives, but you don't know s%^t about this forum. I think you are confusing this with Whine & Cheese or more likely Pirate's Cove. How you could take an innocuous post by Mike and turn it into such a screed is beyond me.

You probably should go back to whence you came, as I don't think you'd be happy here. Just my .02 ¢ worth.
 
Man, I had no idea there would be such negativity over this. When I said "shame of America" I included myself, as I am also an American.
(And a Texan)

So be it, lets let off some steam and start over fresh.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
This has got to be as outstandingly useless a post as I can imagine. Most of it is attacking someone for what he MIGHT do IN YOUR IMAGINATION. The vulgarity tossed in -- inappropriately in this forum -- only makes your lack of fitness to participate in intelligent society more obvious.

Banning is too good for you.
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The words came straight from Rat Finksteins mouth. Err uh keyboard. My post has nothing to do with the topic or forum sub-section and everything to do with Rat Finksteins attitude toward me from another thread, that was closed before i could retort. I probably should have posted this in another section but i saw Finkstein here and decided i should say something.
 
DannyinJapan said:
Man, I had no idea there would be such negativity over this. When I said "shame of America" I included myself, as I am also an American.
(And a Texan)

So be it, lets let off some steam and start over fresh.
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Yeah, it's all your fault Danny-San! You damned Japanese are always causing trouble!

Oh! Texas, right... ;):D
 
This was a bad choice on your part benchmadenut...poor form to chase threads, worse to make personal attacks, even more so with vulgarity in this forum.

The plank is being hauled out of storage as we speak...entirely your choice.


Others...sorry for editing your posts, but when you repeat the attacks and vulgarity...well...it all gets swept. Discussion is good, other stuff bad. Chance to salvage thread or not.
 
I totaly agree with Munk here, don't crap on a thread because you don't like the thread. Hit the damn back button and read about knives.

And Danny, I don't see how you caused negativity at all. Don't take responsiblity for it. Your thread wasn't even ever intended to become and Iraq war thread. I bear some of the responsiblity for responding to that drift. Sorry guys. Then HD and I got carried away, as usual, and were having a ball doing it.

Rat, several HI canistas enjoy discussin politics amongst ourselves without the slamm dunking and foul language of the regulars at Whine and cheese. Myself, HD, Munk, and others too. While I sometimes disagree with these gentlemen I certainly learn from their posts. Perfect example is yesterday when HD schooled me, and tought me something simultaneously about the Fairness Doctrine. This is standard fare at the cantina, it was fun until someone got personal, and it should be allowed to continue. Whine and cheese is vulgar, and the regulars are like a gang.
 
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