Illinois knife carry?

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I'll be moving to Chambana later this year and am confused by the regs for knife carry.

It SEEMS like anything over 3" counts as a firearm?

So... basically, 3" and under is ok?

And it looks like they don't differentiate between a folder and a fixed?

Thanks much.

-j
 
Seems like Peoria and possibly Champaign have city ordinances limiting you to 3" but everywhere else, except Chicago, the sky is the limit. (Chi-town is limited to 3" too I'm thinking.) The only time a knife is a weapon here is when you have intent to use it as such. I play show and tell with any cops I see carrying a knife and they've never flinched at anything I was carrying. The biggest thing I've showed one though was a SMF, as they were showing me their Smith and Wesson $4 knife.:o I had a State Trooper trying to flick one of my Sebbies one day too. Didn't work.:)

ps. Like most places though, the cops don't care what you carry as long as you aren't being an idiot with it. Unless you happen to run into a 1%er.
 
Chicago is 2.5" maximum, folder only.

But otherwise, OilMan is correct: Illinois as a state is in many ways pretty open minded about knives... it's the municipalities which worry about this.
 
Ah ha...

Thank you for the advice!

I'll be mostly in Champaign-Urbana, but I'm sure I'll be moseying my way into Chicago at times.

I suppose this is a good time as any to go look for one of those short-blade full-handled Spydercos, no???

:D

Thanks again.

-jon
 
ps. Seems like Loves Park or Machesney Park which are both right next to Rockford technically have a 3" limit too but I've never been hassled by anyone there and it isn't like I'm gonna swap out my edc just so I can drive through a town.:) And again, don't wave a knife around or do anything stupid with it and you should be ok.:thumbup:
 
Hahaha, no... I grew up in New Jersey, worked in New York City, lived in California, and am currently in Maryland and DC, so... the inconspicuous carry theme has been drilled into my head. ;)

-j
 
Crimson...

Don't take this for legal advice, but your proposed scenario is one of those generally "okay" ideas.

Historically, you've been able to carry pretty much any type of knife in Illinois, provided your intent is not to use it as a weapon.

I've carried plenty of big fixed blades without any problem, but always within a context of outdoor usage. I would expect carrying an outdoor blade in a backback in the woods (as opposed to strapped to a thigh in Chicago) should be no problem.
 
My take on the law is that any knife over three inches is considered a weapon only if they can prove you had criminal intent.

I carry a Busse leaner meaner street which has a 4 inch blade in plain view and have never been had a problem and I spend a lot of time in the city. A Chicago cop friend of mine said that as long as you are up front about having it that the cops won't care.

Let's face it. In Chicago where people are getting raped and killed every day they bigger things to worry about then a law abiding guy that has a blade on him.

Plus when you go fishing or hunting or just about any outdoor activity I think the gloves are off and you can carry anything you want to.

Just my take on it...:o
 
Heavy's experience matches mine: the Chicago police are generally quite understanding.

But do take note that on Wednesday (I think it was) of last week, no one in Chicago was shot or eve shot at.

That made the news!
 
Everything being said is my experience as well. When I asked a Chicago officer about the laws regarding carrying a knife, I was told that as long it isn't being used in a threatening manner, that pretty much anything is ok. He even went on to say that he sees bikers with larger fixed blades and they don't do anything about it. Just don't go flashing it around
 
Heavy's experience matches mine: the Chicago police are generally quite understanding.

But do take note that on Wednesday (I think it was) of last week, no one in Chicago was shot or eve shot at.

That made the news!

That is news!!!:D

Everything being said is my experience as well. When I asked a Chicago officer about the laws regarding carrying a knife, I was told that as long it isn't being used in a threatening manner, that pretty much anything is ok. He even went on to say that he sees bikers with larger fixed blades and they don't do anything about it. Just don't go flashing it around

Right. That being said I do take my knife off if I feel I'm entering a place or situation where I think people might be uncomfortable with it. Like when entering a bank or any kind of federal building...I have dealings with the National Labor Relations Board and Labor department and such...better to leave the blade in the car for those meetings.
 
Yep, Butterflys are illegal even if they are in your house and never come out in Illinois.
 
Yep, Butterflys are illegal even if they are in your house and never come out in Illinois.

Although I've seen them for sale at every flea market I've ever been to in this state. Even the ones in the city....
 
I'm not aware of any balisong/butterfly specific *state* laws. As far as Illinois goes, they follow the same rules as folding knives.

However, there are more than a few ordinances around the municipalities that ding balisongs by name. Chicago, for one, definitely prevents you from owning, carrying, etc.

But nearly all the Chicago area suburbs have no such prohibitions.
 
Interesting.

Come to think of it my local knife shop owner once told me that the only reason he won't carry butterflys is because people will come into his store, ask to see one and then drop it while trying to perform some trick with it. Damaging the knife and maybe themselves.

It's not because he can't get them or sell them.

Of course he carries auto's also. For sale to law enforcement only of course. Not that I would carry one anyway. I see no reason to put myself at risk of arrest when a fixed blade is just as quick. :D
 
the way Illinois' state law is worded is kinda sketchy

http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/il.txt
Illinois Criminal Code 720 ILCS 5/24-1. Unlawful Use of
Weapons. (a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use
of weapons when he knowingly... (2) Carries or possesses
with intent to use the same unlawfully against another, a
dagger, dirk, billy, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto,
broken bottle or other piece of glass... or any other
dangerous or deadly weapon of like character...
- 720 ILCS 5/33A-1... A person is considered armed with a
dangerous weapon... when he carries on or about his person
or is otherwise armed with a category I or category II
weapon. (b) A category I weapon is a [firearm or] a knife
with a blade at least 3 inches in length, dagger, dirk,
switchblade knife, stiletto, or any other deadly or
dangerous weapon of like character.
- 720 ILCS 5/24-1. Unlawful Use of Weapons. (a) A person
commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he
knowingly: (1) Sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses
or carries any... knife commonly referred to as a
switchblade knife, which has a blade that opens
automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring
or other device in the handle of the knife, or a ballistic
knife, which is a device that propels a knifelike blade as
a projectile by means of a coil spring, elastic material,
or compressed gas...
- 720 ILCS 5/33A-1... A person is considered armed with a
dangerous weapon... when he carries on or about his person
or is otherwise armed with a category I or category II
weapon. (b) A category I weapon is a [firearm or] a knife
with a blade at least 3 inches in length, dagger, dirk,
switchblade knife, stiletto, or any other deadly or
dangerous weapon of like character.

Illinois Case Law:
- "Possession of hunting knife is not a crime; however,
knowingly carrying or possessing dangerous weapon with
intent to use same unlawfully against another constitutes
offense..." (1982)
- "Weapon not listed in statute can become "dangerous weapon"
when it is used in a manner dangerous to well being of
individual threatened, and knife with blade less than 3
inches in length can be dangerous weapon if used in such
manner." (1991)
- "A straight-blade razor did not constitute a per se
dangerous weapon, for purposes of armed violence
charge..." (1987)
- "Walking cane, even if not per se dangerous, was...
transformed by defendant's usage into a dangerous weapon."
(1977)

I called my county probate court and had a court clerk look at the books for me, even after I checked my state gov's website and read them myself, and then I went so far as to get in contact with a DA. After all that I found out that autos are not illegal, and that it is just a stigma. I went into a knife store and bought an infidel, apparently the original run in my state was LEO only, but after talking to a gun store owner that said they were ok to have, I was shocked. He said go research it and when I get some Infidels that are not carded for LEO only I'll sell you one. I gave the knife as a wedding gift to my best friend, who has always wanted a otf in/out auto. He had it serviced through benchmade and had it sent back. He did not include military/LEO ID. BTW I live in GA. If you want an infidel go to adventure outdoors, but first get a good price on the internet, get the url and whether they have any in stock, and Adventure Outdoors should match
 
YMMV but to my knowledge an auto will get you jail time in Illinois. I've asked the State Troopers about it many times and to many State Troopers.
 
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