I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK

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Cleared some forest and shrubbery today with my 20" AK.

I'm still getting used to this monster, obviously, so take my comments with a few grains of salt.

It's a quite heavy and hefty blade, to be sure! I experimented with various two-handed grips, but found that I could tackle one handed cuts if I economized the power.

The AK chops well. Interestingly, sometimes it seemed to chop almost effortlessly, whereas other times it appeared to just bounce off the wood. If my angle was a little off, the blade had a tendency to "fall flat" on its side.

When I got the hang of it, I was chopping off 4 to 5 inches thick branches with little... OK, make that *some*, effort. You'd have to be quite dedicated to down a full-grown three with it, but it's not impossible.

I don't think the blade is extremely sharp. It doesn't need to be, either, as the mechanics are comparable to those of an axe. Too sharp, and the edge would become a lot more fragile, I think.

I had to wear gloves most of the time, as the carvings in the handle was giving me palm blisters. I'm wondering whether a leather over wire wrap à la European swords would make it more comfortable to wield without gloves -- have anyone tried something like this?

I accidentally hit a piece of rock whilst chopping, something that resulted in a bent tip. I'm surprised that it didn't break, actually! Won't be a problem getting it fixed, though, and it's still plenty useable.

I'm pretty certain I'll be using my 20" AK more, but I don't think it's my ideal khukuri. It appears to be too massive for anything else but the most serious chopping business, but the good side of that is that the blade will do a lot of the work for you -- once you've managed to raise it overhead... ;)

Good thing I have a BAS by Bura coming up soon, lest my biceps become unnaturally large! :D
 
Good stuff and thanks. :D I feel like I should be drinking a Heineken when I type that.

Glad to hear you liked your AK. I have the 18" model, it is a little easier to wield than what you describe. If the ring in the handle is what's giving you blisters, you can file or sand that down to your comfort level. I have a Chitlangi whose ring I filed down on only one side, the side where it contacts my palm. I let the rest of the ring go between my fingers and it helps to give me a secure grip. The most comfortable khukuri handle I've used yet was a chiruwa handle with finger grooves, it just seems to work for me. It also lacks the ring, so no blisters.

You're probably right about the blade being dull, they often aren't perfect straight from Birghorka. I've actually found that a good convex edge can be extremely sharp and yet fairly durable, and that the performance difference between just kind of sharp and really really sharp can be significant, even while chopping. You can see the test in which I discovered that here I noticed the occasional 'bouncing' problem with Sher's blade during that test too, but Kumar's blade, which was a lot sharper, bit in every time.

Good thing I have a BAS by Bura coming up soon, lest my biceps become unnaturally large!
[Ahnold voice]You just need to pump some i'on[Ahnold voice]
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To give an idea of how "decently sharp" and "wicked convex edge sharp" compare, I think my Ang Khola Bowie (9" blade or so) chops nearly as well as my 21" Gelbu Special or my 18" WW2.
The GS has a nice polished edge from Birghorkha; the 18" ww2 has a shave-sharp edge put on with stones, by me; and the AK Bowie has a convex edge by Pendentive, from here at the Cantina.
The Bowie is one of those blades, that you make sure you connect at nearly a 90 degree angle with the wood if it's soft, otherwise it SLICES through the soft layers right to the core.
It frightens me.
 
Originally posted by Tristan_Bantam
I don't think the blade is extremely sharp. It doesn't need to be, either, as the mechanics are comparable to those of an axe. Too sharp, and the edge would become a lot more fragile, I think.

You're not thinking quite right my friend. The sharper the kukri the better it will cut.:D
If you have a fairly thick edge on the kukri it won't be so fragile. That's the idea behind the convex edge. It puts more material right behind the edge to strengthen it.
The real timber men, the real Lumberjacks, polish their axe edges to a very smooth sharp edge as one uses in push cutting. This edge is less prone to chipping and therefore other failures.
But you'll learn all this as time goes by and you hang out around here.:)
 
Tristan:

I've noticed my 20" AK (Villager - 32 oz) has a greater tendency to tip over sideways on impact than my 21" GS - also a 2 pounder. For some reason the wider blade needs to be swung a little more precisely. This isn't a huge problem and I still like them both.

If you get around to it, you might consider one of those convex/leather stropped edges recommended by Pendentive. They are well worth the trouble to put on, and stay sharp alot longer.
 
I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK
Careful, man. You remember how THAT one turned out.

Used my 20" AK villager today on some 1-to-3 inch ailanthus (may they rot in the 9th ring of Hades) saplings. I chopped them down with a small WWII by RR, then took them to my chopping/beheading stump and cut them up with the 20". The only time the blade 'fell over' was when I had air space between the wood and the block as I was chopping. This is a problem regardless of the tool that is being used.

Those villagers, regardless of the length, are awesome. I blued the blade on the 20", and it looks truly scary.
 
Originally posted by Aardvark
I blued the blade on the 20", and it looks truly scary. [/B]

How do you maintain a blued blade? I use metal polish after every substantial cutting/chopping session to get all the dirt off of the blade. I imagined that this would tear off the bluing in no time?

Oh, I'll be careful -- no bra's for me! ;)
 
I use a nylon scrub pad (NOT ScotchBrite) and dish soap, then mineral oil. Can't say how long it will last, since I only did it last week. I've seen posts about curing the blued blade in oil overnight(?), which is supposed to dramatically increase it's durability. Can't comment firsthand on that.
 
A great little ditty:

LumberJack song -Monty Python
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm a lumberjack and I'm O.K.
I sleep all night and I work all day
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch,
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shopping
And have buttered scones for tea.

CHORUS
He's a lumberjack and he's O.K.
He sleeps all night
And Works all day.

I chop down trees, I skip and jump
I like to press wild flowers
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars

I cut down trees, I wear high heels
Suspenders and a bra.
I want to be a girlee
Just like my dear papa.
:eek: :D
 
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