I'm have a big problem with my Boker Orion, anyone else?

[Pergatory]

Hello.

The problem I'm having with the Orion is that the bottom of the grind line is too close to the bottom of the blade, therefore when I close the blade the grind gets stuck on the top of the liner lock, at about 30 degree angle before it's going to close. (I hope that made sense). Not only is this a pain in the ass, it is also scratching up the beautiful blade and is a safety hazard to me. It is dangerous because I have to carefully hold the liner lock down until the blade is almost completely closed. See the problem!!!!

Has anyone else had this problem?
I've contacted Boker who claim they will replace this knife, but it seems (to me) to be an inherent design flaw. anyone else?

thanks Ed

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[tuhkis]

Don't know about Orion, but I've heard/experienced quite much negative about Boker blades. Thumbs down for them.
Well - derogation is my Boker Bud Nealy SpecialistI, but it's Bud Nealy...
I purchased Speedlock with thuja inlays. It was a disappointment: the blade was rattling and when I tried to open the screws in the handle they didn't even jerk. Only thing I managed was I ruined the other of them. Allen wranch was exact size - no question about that.
Anyway, I sent it to Boker and they promised to fix it - let's see what happens.
But I think no matter what happens, I'll change the brand in the future.

 

[redvenom]

Have seen a few knives like that on unbranded liner locks going for $10. Agree with your assessment - its very likely a design problem which I don't think they will be able to solve without replacing the whole blade with a different profile grind. Either that or the machine/person doing the grinding had a really bad day and the knife slipped past QC.

I've been very underwhelmed by the Bokers - for the price they charge, they're not worth the money. Mabye others have had better luck, but I won't be buying one anytime soon.

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[Brian_Turner]

My Orion does not have a similar problem. Beyond looking beautiful, I'm pretty much ambivalent towards it. Nothing exceptionally good or bad (other than being designed without a ball detent).

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[MWINTE]

Hi,
I have never owned an Orion, but a couple of other boker knifes ( 3 superliner and one
stellar) and I have to say thet their quality compared to their price is very poor.
All four knifes had vertical blade-play within a couple of days after I bought them.
O.K., boker always gave me a new, but they made sure that they where not happy with that
and told me for exampel that I used Tem in a way the knifes where not designed for ( I cut carpet) and when I brought back to their factory ( I live close to solingen) the last superliner they where really pissed and told me that I could not expect For the price of the superliner (roundabout 100 us-dollar) the quality of a custom-made; I was just expecting the quality of a blade with no vertical play.
So, I definitely cant suggest boker, not their quality and not their service.
Kindly yours,
Martin

 

[Rust Free]

I purchased an Orion by mail order several months ago. There were no problems with the grind line although there was a huge fingerprint on the titanium blade that wouldn't wipe off. I ended up returning it to the distributor after getting a lot of flak from the Boker people in Colorado.

 

[Steelwolf]

Brian, you have that same problem with the ball detent (or lack thereof)? Such a lot of pain every time I try to close the blade. There's a nice long scratch line on the blade now from where the corner of the liner rubs against the blade. And so odd too. All the holes for the ball detent are there, just no ball.

While I'm searching for a suitable ball to be fixed in, I put a drop of epoxy in place of the ball to stop further damage.

Pergatory, I don't think I have that problem you described. Perhaps yours is a once off? Some un-conscientious worker made a mistake and over ground the bottom? I know that the workmanship is not something to be proud of. On mine, the scales were unevenly finished, the allen key sockets were partially stripped and the blade sits too close to the side opposite the liner lock that it actually rubs a little.

All of which I found rather odd as I was more than happy with their speedlock. Well, maybe not that happy as I believe the spring could be a little stronger.

 

[HermanKnives]

a friend brought me over a couple of the orions to look at and i was amazed too there was no ball detent. i took one apart and saw all the holes for a ball so i added one and the 440c ball dug a groove into the titanium blade and was rougher than a cob! so first off, my opinion of a ti blade is worthless! a nylon ball is all i can think of to make it work but i wont order 100 nylon balls for one lame knife. i also think the orion is too wide, its a big knife anyway and the width makes it even more bulky. just my opinion

i am NOT impressed with boker and it sounds like the company reps seem pretty nasty about returns. that sux bad!


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[Steelwolf]

I see from Herman's post that a steel ball detent would be just as bad. Ok, the search is now on for a plastic ball. If it weren't so small, I wouldn't have had any problems building one up. Wait... a thought just occurred to me. What about lead? It's a soft inert metal, hopefully softer than the titanium blade

and it wouldn't be too difficult to form tiny balls using lead solder and a soldering iron. Any thoughts? BTW, don't expect me to come back with the results of this experiment any time soon as my soldering set is about 3,000km and 3 months away. (Ah... home sweet home

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