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I am looking for a new pack for my BOB I prefer a rucksack type bag non-military price range 20.00-40.00. Anyone have a good source?
 
I have been thinking about buying the Swiss Ranger Rucksack, I did look at the German one, I just don't like those plastic snaps
 
Yeah, I thought the same thing about the plastic fasteners, but when I started using it, the more confidence I had for the pack. Have had it over a year and so far so good.
 
What longbow50 said. I've got 3 of German rucks, 1 older model without the plastic hardware. Great packs, great price. BTW about any commercial pack you get is going to have plastic hardware on it.
gino:)
 
Longbow - how large is that pack? Is it over 2000sq inches? Is it one large compartment with those pouches on the sides or are there more than one compartment? Can you get much in it? When ordered did you get one in half way decent shape or nearly shot and unserviceable?
 
The mentioned German rucksack is 1463 sq.". Eastpack sells all sorts of water-proofed Cordura Nylon packs w/ capacities of 1800 sq." or more and most can be had at "big box" stores well within your budget. In fact, there are tons of choices out there. The market for bags to tote books has brought a flood of small packs to the consumer -- some, of course, are junk. Best bet would be something that's a big sack with a flap top -- zippers can be a weak point.
 
The pack is under 2000ci, but as it's wider at the top than on the bottom it's actually a bit more than the 1463ci that the listed numbers add up to. When you add the two large side pockets @ 180ci total, I think it's pushing 1700-1800ci total storage. There is an internal pouch that covers the inside of the pack that rests against your back. I placed my poncho liner and a few maps as well as a legal pad for making notes. I put two MRE entrees in each of the side pockets, which are designed so that you can place skis or other items behind them for easy carry. I put my takedown longbow behind them, half on each side. Inside the pack I managed to put a 1 gal ziplock with my personal hygene items, a 1 gal ziplock with coffee, tea, sweetener, powdered creamer, emergency electrolite replacement drinks, a couple of instant soup packets and some salt-pepper-ceyenne-onion-garlic packets, a pouch of parched corn meal, Extra medical and medications, water filter and purification tablets, Becker BK-7 with kit in sheath, small garden trowel, TP, long underwear, 1 pair shorts, 2 pair socks, 1 longsleeve turtleneck, 1 pair pants, wool watchcap and gloves, leather gloves, 2 fire sources, 30' paracord, tin cup, backup compass, mil issue poncho. wool saddle blanket and a small saw. I carry my canteen w/cup + cover, stove kit and main medical kit on my belt along with a small buttpack containing another poncho and snare kit and I also carry an M2K on the belt. Anyway, you get an idea of what I was able to stuff into it. My Pad hangs off of it.
 
Originally posted by grant4353
What do you think of the Mil Spec Nato Style pack at major surplus and survival?

http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.co...een=PROD&Product_Code=156409&Category_Code=92
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I think that Stansport Yukon kicks dust on it, or any pack with no hip belt. If you get stuck in the field, fatigue becomes the enemy. The hip belt is the single best innovation in packs ever. Even better than internal frames. The Stansport is pretty cheap construction/design (personally I use a Gregory Reality for dayhiking) but it beats the heck out of any rucksack for trail ergonomics. http://store.yahoo.com/arkatents/yukon.html

Put the weight on your hips instead of your shoulders and suddenly you start thinking about what you really need to carry for safety instead of thinking of what to leave behind cause your shoulders and mid back are going to hurt at the end of the day.
 
A big vote for hip belts. Interestingly, after the U.S,. Civil War, a Union Army medico patented a pack that transferred the weight of the load to the wide canvas cartidge belt of the day by wooden struts. The military leadership thought it a silly idea, and the "secret" was lost, only to be rediscovered, by Kelty I think, in the 1960's
 
Well I took Longbow's advice and ordered the German Ranger Moutain Rucksack. It was suppose to be in like new condition but in reality was new. Excellent adjustments, waist belt, sturdily built, looks like its about 1500 cubic inches plus those two side pouches. This appears to be a real bargain.
 
Longbow, how heavy duty is the canvas? Is it treated with a water proofing? Is the rubber at the bottom decently attached? Does it cover the canvas bottom or is it the bottom?
Thanks. g
 
Geoff, It's packed and in the truck with the wife right now or I'd look at it. If I'm remembering correctly, it's attached to the canvas, but I don't think it covers it. The canvas is heavy duty stuff and overall the pack is exceptional in construction. From my experience, the Germans don't scrimp on their gear. As far as being waterproofed, I have no clue, but it was designed for the German Mtn. Rangers, which means it's going to get wet and go through some rough usage in the field. I carry a poncho in a butt pack so that I can throw it on in wet conditions. The U.S. issue poncho does a good job of keeping me and my gear dry.
 
Well I know you want the ruck type, and your price range is under $40.00, but if you get the chance to get one I reccommend the Tactical Tailor 3-day pack. Have had one for over a year now and use it everyday. I have nothing but high praises for this pack.
 
Hey Longbow I took your advice and ordered 2 of those packs. One for my truck bag and one for just romping around in the woods.
 
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