Im so tired of hearing people saying a sebenza is to expensive, and how Mr xyz knife company makes one just as good for 70 bucks. Well guess what, there is no free lunch. Sebenzas are expensive for a reason, the reason is because they are perfection. Thats right ive said it, a grey little piece of perfection in an imperfect world. In this world you get what you pay for. Other companys make fine knives that come close but,like everthing else perfection costs. Like suvs, ford makes a nice explorer, but then there is a range rover. Not everyone was ment to own a sebenza and not everyone was ment to drive a rangerover. 90 percent of the people like middle of the road 200.00 knives and there is nothing wrong with them. But the sebenza is a few bucks more for a reason. ok ive ranted enough. thanks ...gees i sound like some kinda mad sebenzaist.
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Im tired of people saying a sebenza is to expensive
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Sebenzas are too expensive.
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Sebenzas are too expensive relative to many high end production knives.
Personally I am finding that most people who say that Sebenzas are "too expensive" actually mean "they are too expensive for me to buy".
If somewone cannot afford something, or simply doesn't want to spend their money on an item, then who really cares? It is a personal financial matter.
Some people don't need a $350.00 Sebenza, to slice bread, when a $10.00 Opinel will do. To this type of person, with this type of simple knife need, a $10.00 Opinel is every bit as good as a $350.00 Sebenza.
Other people, like me, appeciate all sorts of various priced knives. I own Sebenzas, Randalls, Spydercos, RJ Martins, Snodys, Opinels, BM, Grecos, Severtechs, Ka Bar, Tops, Microtech, Protech, Strider, CRT blah blah blah. If you are going to collect knives, a CRK folder will eventually end up in your collection.
If I want something, and I can comfortably afford it, I will buy it. If someone else thinks a knife in my collection is not worth the money, I tell them simply not to buy one. Period.
If somewone cannot afford something, or simply doesn't want to spend their money on an item, then who really cares? It is a personal financial matter.
Some people don't need a $350.00 Sebenza, to slice bread, when a $10.00 Opinel will do. To this type of person, with this type of simple knife need, a $10.00 Opinel is every bit as good as a $350.00 Sebenza.
Other people, like me, appeciate all sorts of various priced knives. I own Sebenzas, Randalls, Spydercos, RJ Martins, Snodys, Opinels, BM, Grecos, Severtechs, Ka Bar, Tops, Microtech, Protech, Strider, CRT blah blah blah. If you are going to collect knives, a CRK folder will eventually end up in your collection.
If I want something, and I can comfortably afford it, I will buy it. If someone else thinks a knife in my collection is not worth the money, I tell them simply not to buy one. Period.
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Well, I can't spend $300 bucks (or even $200) on a knife, so in my narrow world veiw sebbies are too expensive. And since I am a introspective person who has never handled a sebenza, I will proclaim to the stars that sebenzas are overpriced.
I am not actually being sarcastic here. Really. I just need a piece of steel to cut rope and stick into things. Does it need to be perfect?
I am not actually being sarcastic here. Really. I just need a piece of steel to cut rope and stick into things. Does it need to be perfect?
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From a strictly financial standpoint, Sebenzas are neither overpriced nor underpriced: the market price for anything reflects the consensus view of value, and accounts for all opinions. Or at least, that'd be the "Efficient Market Theory 101" explanation.
Long gold and oil service stocks, short Sebenzas.
Dave
Long gold and oil service stocks, short Sebenzas.
Dave
ColoradoDave said:From a strictly financial standpoint, Sebenzas are neither overpriced nor underpriced: the market price for anything reflects the consensus view of value, and accounts for all opinions. Or at least, that'd be the "Efficient Market Theory 101" explanation.
Long gold and oil service stocks, short Sebenzas.
Dave
Dave,
Well said.
Sebenzas are not alone in being thought of as "too expensive" to some folks. I just bought a beautiful new Randall at a show on Sunday. Some folks will say I am "nuts" or it is "far too expensive" or the fact that new orders, direct from Randall, will not ship until 2008 as absolutely crazy.
The top recognized, expensive brands, prove to be popular by the waiting time and lack of discounts you can find. The fact that some folks find a Sebenza too expensive for their tastes, is a good thing for those who like Sebenzs. I am happy some people don't want them. Imagine the potential waiting time and shortage if everyone wanted one.
The top recognized, expensive brands, prove to be popular by the waiting time and lack of discounts you can find. The fact that some folks find a Sebenza too expensive for their tastes, is a good thing for those who like Sebenzs. I am happy some people don't want them. Imagine the potential waiting time and shortage if everyone wanted one.
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here we go again...
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IMHO Sebenza's are not too expensive. I've paid much more for folders than were not as good as the Sebs.
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I agree, Sebenza's are too expensive!!!!!!
Yeah, that's why I purchased 4 lately
Why? Because I can, plus I have another Chris Reeve Green Beret coming too boot!
If you think there too expensive, fine, that's your opinion....but have you actually tried one? Many probably haven't becasue they got price shocked. I don't think that they are 100% perfect, but you know what, they come very close. Solid in every way, nuf said. Plus it's cool to take apart & clean up & put back together again...all without voiding the warranty. Another benefit, if you screw up the face of the handle or scratch the blade, you can send it back to the factory & have them fix it & make it look new again! You have to agree that that's kinda cool to be able to do that if needed. It doesn't cost a whole lot to do either. I don't mind spending the extra loot for a top quality knife....if you can do it, then do it
Yeah, that's why I purchased 4 lately
Why? Because I can, plus I have another Chris Reeve Green Beret coming too boot! If you think there too expensive, fine, that's your opinion....but have you actually tried one? Many probably haven't becasue they got price shocked. I don't think that they are 100% perfect, but you know what, they come very close. Solid in every way, nuf said. Plus it's cool to take apart & clean up & put back together again...all without voiding the warranty. Another benefit, if you screw up the face of the handle or scratch the blade, you can send it back to the factory & have them fix it & make it look new again! You have to agree that that's kinda cool to be able to do that if needed. It doesn't cost a whole lot to do either. I don't mind spending the extra loot for a top quality knife....if you can do it, then do it
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I have a new small Sebenza, and think it's great! It really is exceptionally well built--better than many customs I have seen. Is it worth the money? That's like asking if it's worth getting married or not, or getting a higher salary at the expense of vacation time. What's right for Ted may not be right for Frank (if there are any Teds or Franks on this thread, I'm not talking about you specifically ).
It's worth it for me, simply because I am a knife enthusiast, and find joy in fine craftsmanship. I'm not going to carry it every day, simply because I have other knives that I also really like and they will not stop having their days in the sun. I don't NEED it by any stretch--as Will P. (and others have) said, all you really need is a piece of sharpened steel. I find some wisdom in that statement. Wisdom in that not I, nor anyone else, can argue that the Sebenza will cut open your mail any faster than your Benchmade, nor say that "the guy in the burning building would have gotten out if only he'd had a Sebbie and not that Cold Steel." You can get the same steel, expertly treated, for less money elsewhere.
On the other hand, though, as much as many here often try to seem very nonchalant regarding knives, so as to seem like hard-working veterans of knifedom who keep it real and think of them as tools to use and don't get wrapped up in all the silly stuff---------look at how we spend our time! Every one of us, no matter what type of knife we like or what our economic situation allows us to get, obviously has some regard higher than 'simply a tool' for his/her knives because we're here spending time discussing them. How many of us have visited Shovelforums in the past month? Some of us have thousands upon thousands of posts, representing what many would consider to be an obscene amount of hours on the internet, which could have been used making ourselves smarter and richer. For members here who've posted anything more than a few theads of questions, I'm afraid you can't deny that you're a hobbyist, and you spend more time (and probably money) on these simple tools than really makes sense in the real world.
Therefore, I don't think trying to justify our sebenzas makes much sense. There isn't an absolute necessity for them, any more than there is for expensive wine or better than average sound systems. We have them because we like them. That said, having them because we like them is more than enough reason all on its own, so feeling like we NEED to justify them doesn't make much sense either. If you like your Spydercos, get them. If you like Sebbies, get them. If you find romance in the brute simplicity of a Sears box cutter, then by all means use that! Such choice and freedom to do as we will with our cash is the beauty of a non-communist system.
We can give advice, share our experiences, heap praise and lay blame when needed, but I don't think I have any more right to say anyone is a fool to spend their money on ____ than to say that their wife is ugly. In both cases, I would certainly deserve a swift kick in the ass.
). It's worth it for me, simply because I am a knife enthusiast, and find joy in fine craftsmanship. I'm not going to carry it every day, simply because I have other knives that I also really like and they will not stop having their days in the sun. I don't NEED it by any stretch--as Will P. (and others have) said, all you really need is a piece of sharpened steel. I find some wisdom in that statement. Wisdom in that not I, nor anyone else, can argue that the Sebenza will cut open your mail any faster than your Benchmade, nor say that "the guy in the burning building would have gotten out if only he'd had a Sebbie and not that Cold Steel." You can get the same steel, expertly treated, for less money elsewhere.
On the other hand, though, as much as many here often try to seem very nonchalant regarding knives, so as to seem like hard-working veterans of knifedom who keep it real and think of them as tools to use and don't get wrapped up in all the silly stuff---------look at how we spend our time! Every one of us, no matter what type of knife we like or what our economic situation allows us to get, obviously has some regard higher than 'simply a tool' for his/her knives because we're here spending time discussing them. How many of us have visited Shovelforums in the past month? Some of us have thousands upon thousands of posts, representing what many would consider to be an obscene amount of hours on the internet, which could have been used making ourselves smarter and richer. For members here who've posted anything more than a few theads of questions, I'm afraid you can't deny that you're a hobbyist, and you spend more time (and probably money) on these simple tools than really makes sense in the real world.
Therefore, I don't think trying to justify our sebenzas makes much sense. There isn't an absolute necessity for them, any more than there is for expensive wine or better than average sound systems. We have them because we like them. That said, having them because we like them is more than enough reason all on its own, so feeling like we NEED to justify them doesn't make much sense either. If you like your Spydercos, get them. If you like Sebbies, get them. If you find romance in the brute simplicity of a Sears box cutter, then by all means use that! Such choice and freedom to do as we will with our cash is the beauty of a non-communist system.
We can give advice, share our experiences, heap praise and lay blame when needed, but I don't think I have any more right to say anyone is a fool to spend their money on ____ than to say that their wife is ugly. In both cases, I would certainly deserve a swift kick in the ass.
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sixfeetdeep said:If you think there too expensive, fine, that's your opinion....but have you actually tried one? Many probably haven't becasue they got price shocked. I don't think that they are 100% perfect, but you know what, they come very close. Solid in every way, nuf said. Plus it's cool to take apart & clean up & put back together again...all without voiding the warranty. Another benefit, if you screw up the face of the handle or scratch the blade, you can send it back to the factory & have them fix it & make it look new again! You have to agree that that's kinda cool to be able to do that if needed. It doesn't cost a whole lot to do either. I don't mind spending the extra loot for a top quality knife....if you can do it, then do it
Some of us don't have time to field strip and clean a knife, even one meant to be disassembled. Likewise, if I am carrying a folding knife as part of my combat gear, and it get all messed up, can the factory mail it back to me in time?
I just got my first AXIS lock knife. I was a bit worried; the AXIS lock was not, in my mind, tried and true. I was using it to dig up some bushes, and after a couple of hours the mechanism felt gritty. I worked it back and forth a few times, and all the dirty got shunted into a hole in the liner, where I scooped it out with a twig. The mechanism was silky smooth again.
Folding knives overall just aren't reliable enough for some things. The Sebenza is well worth it for some knife knuts, but in the same way a fancy car is worthwhile (I am stealing the metahpor). It enhances your life, but as essentially a toy. So when I say the Sebenza isn't worth the money, I mean that that is vastly more than I, personally, would spend on any knife.
EDIt: hmm... it looks to me like everyone is saying variations on the same theme.