I'm trying to find where I can talk about tactical expanding batons

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Please feel free to move this thread to where it's appropriate, but I can't find where we can talk about batons on this forum. I'm specifically looking for info on the Schrade 26" Tactical Expandable Friction Lock Baton SCBAT26. And any reviews, experiences, or opinions regarding this model will be greatly appreciated.

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I would try to find out what brand LEOs use. It is fairly simple design so as long as it is put together well and doesn't fall apart it should work as advertised.

What are you trying to find out about it?
 
Might try THR Non-Firearms Weapons thread. I have an ASP baton, which is what the LEOs in this area carry. Be aware that local or state laws can be very strict on carrying or using impact weapons, so check etc. etc. Only problem with the ASP I have is that it requires a strong impact on the tip, like smacking it into a concrete floor, to close after it deployed. Mine is about 15 years old, probably the technology has improved. I carry it in my truck, never on my person. I do carry a Kahr P9 and a Spyderco Endura.
 
Basically, I'm wondering how it compares quality wise to an ASP that costs 3x as much. Is it really worth paying nearly three times as much for an ASP? Has anyone had any negative experiences with the Schrade models? Do they have a tendency to stick when open making it difficult to close without slamming it on the ground? etc...
 
Have you looked at Monadnock batons? They have models that unlock with the push of a button and are much easier to close after deployed.Ditto on the checking local laws...I had to take a certification course to carry mine, not unlike a handgun course. ( Watch videos, perform strikes,etc)
Some of the cheaper brands will bend after a couple of hard strikes. Of course, if it performs how you need it to if the time comes, you always can replace it. I would rather shell out the bucks once instead of 2 or 3 times. Just a thought...
 
The best are ASP and Monadnock, you really do get what you pay for. a Baton is not something you want to go cheap on. the last thing you want is it to fail on you when you need it most and possibly your life is depending on it.
 
Like Ron M80, said, you will probably get your best response in Prac/Tac. I know there have been at least a couple discussions there on battons in the past 6 months. IIRC, there were also reports there of inexpensive battons failing in use. The extensability of such battons is an inherent weakness, and IMO you need to pay extra to overcome that. I really think the peace of mind would be worth the price for a premium brand batton, like the ASP or Monadnock.
 
We have been issuing the ASP product for almost 20 years now. No mechanical failures, no problems. We issue the friction-lock model that does require a healthy whack on something hard to close.
 
Our purchasing agent decided to go with an 'off brand' baton for issue to reserve officers. After bending a few and having a few get stuck in the open position and some that wouldn't open, he returned them. Go with Manadnock or Asp.
 
The best I have come across is the Wilmoth baton. I have checked out the Schrade and while you can pick them up for $20...you pretty much get what you pay for.
 
So I guess since I'm only going to be using this as a bedroom defensive tool...is $20 good enough for that limited purpose? I guess I'm wondering what the real difference is? Is it that the metal will bend the first time you hit something or will it not effectively open and retract? What is the difference you get by paying more???
 
Well it has been said already. If you want a dependable extending baton, you gotta pay for one of the named products.

Consider this, and i'm not joking. Youth aluminum alloy baseball bat at 25" long, the kind they use at T-ball. around $30 and will never fail you.
 
the remington rcb is pretty impressive, but very heavy.

i like the asp for an expandable, i dont like the plastic tip on the monadnocks. but neither really make for much of an impact weapon. they just don't have enough mass to generate good batspeed.

now i carry a 29" diamondwood straight stick. can be a bit cumbersometo carry, but sends the message i need sent.
 
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