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im wondering some things about my new folder

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The Trout

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i wrote a few days ago a couple questions about my new knife but i didnt have pictures at the time and now i have a few more questions so i thought i should put it all in one place. first of all, im wondering about the centering on this knife, ill put a picture below. i dont think its grinding on the side, but the blade is a bit off center, i can smoothly put a piece of paper in between the blade and the frame but im still not sure what i should do. heres what it looks like

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so what do you guys think is the knife compromised or should i send it back or try to fix it myself or is it fine?

i also noticed that there was a chip on some of the paint behind the lock, do you think i might have gotten a return or a repackaged one, or do you think this might mean it could rust more easily, this chip is the exposed metal underneath the black paint around the lock

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one more thing, i know this is supposed to be a tough folder, and i kind of like whipping it open pretty hard and playing with the lock, is it pretty safe to fling it open with a fast motion or is that going to make it weaker, i know i dont want to send it flying cause that could be a disaster.
 
oh i forgot i can kind of hear and feel some friction when slowly opening and closing the knife, is that normal, im wondering if it is just the back of the blade rolling on the axis lock, but since the knife is off center im worried it might be blade on frame contact, i feel like i can see space between the surface of the blade and the frame but i dont know much about knives and hopefully someone might know. if there are more pictures i can post or better ones i will, just trying to figure out if i might have gotten a lemon.
 
1. Most of the axis locks I've seen are off center to some degree, the only one that I've seen that was perfect was my mini onslaught.

2. I imagine it's just a small imperfection from factory, assuming you bought it from a reputable seller (Knife Center, Blade HQ, GP knives, KnifeWorks, just to name a few), it's brand new.

3. Flick away, as long as you're not doing a huge swing to get it open and just flicking it open with your thumb, it'll be fine. Even then there probably won't be any negative affects, it's still not advisable haha.

If the centering and chip in the coating really bother you send it in and BenchMade will take good care of you, their customer service is top notch. :thumbup:
 
9blades said:
1. Most of the axis locks I've seen are off center to some degree, the only one that I've seen that was perfect was my mini onslaught.

2. I imagine it's just a small imperfection from factory, assuming you bought it from a reputable seller (Knife Center, Blade HQ, GP knives, KnifeWorks, just to name a few), it's brand new.

3. Flick away, as long as you're not doing a huge swing to get it open and just flicking it open with your thumb, it'll be fine. Even then there probably won't be any negative affects, it's still not advisable haha.

If the centering and chip in the coating really bother you send it in and BenchMade will take good care of you, their customer service is top notch. :thumbup:
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+1 on all of this, pretty straight forward.

On an unrelated note, my SHOT show Mini Onslaught was also the only axis lock BM that I owned that was perfectly centered.
 
Chips in Benchmade's BK1 coating happen from where metal meets metal. My adamas has the same "chip" yours has. Chalk it up to normal use.
 
My benchmade mini bone collector is an axis lock and perfectly centered, but that is the only production knife I own that is actually done right.

My thinking on centering issues and what-not, is If you want it done right you gotta do it yourself :D
 
9blades said:
1. Most of the axis locks I've seen are off center to some degree, the only one that I've seen that was perfect was my mini onslaught.

2. I imagine it's just a small imperfection from factory, assuming you bought it from a reputable seller (Knife Center, Blade HQ, GP knives, KnifeWorks, just to name a few), it's brand new.

3. Flick away, as long as you're not doing a huge swing to get it open and just flicking it open with your thumb, it'll be fine. Even then there probably won't be any negative affects, it's still not advisable haha.

If the centering and chip in the coating really bother you send it in and BenchMade will take good care of you, their customer service is top notch. :thumbup:
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thanks i think ill have to settle down with flinging it open then, the way i would do it, was loosen the axis, then swing out my forearm and wrist cause it made a satisfying snap. do you think since i did that a bunch of times the knife is still as reliable as it would have been, i really need to keep all of my fingers so i need to know the lock is strong
 
so you guys would say based on what ive said and based on the picture youd keep it if it had come to you? thats basically what im trying to figure out, i want to get it switched out if thats important from a use and reliability standpoint but if its avoidable i just want to hold on to it and maybe try to center it myself. what would you guys do?
 
The Trout said:
thanks i think ill have to settle down with flinging it open then, the way i would do it, was loosen the axis, then swing out my forearm and wrist cause it made a satisfying snap. do you think since i did that a bunch of times the knife is still as reliable as it would have been, i really need to keep all of my fingers so i need to know the lock is strong
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Don't do that.

Either flick it with your thumb with no wrist movement or open it slowly with your thumb.
 
The Trout said:
oh god is there anything i can do to see if its still safe?
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I doubt you did it enough times to actually damage it, the Adamas and the axis lock in general are pretty solid.

Check for blade play, if there isn't any you should be fine unless there's visible damage on the Axis pin or the tang.
 
evanPGH said:
I doubt you did it enough times to actually damage it, the Adamas and the axis lock in general are pretty solid.

Check for blade play, if there isn't any you should be fine unless there's visible damage on the Axis pin or the tang.
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do you mean blade play when its open or closed? when i was looking at the centering when its closed, i can budge it with my thumb a bit more toward the center, it feels solid when its open but now im wondering if im imagining there is a bit of play, i dont think so though. what sort of damage would i be looking for? to be honest im not even sure what a tang is
 
Not being rude so if I come off that way let me apologize in advance. However, just take a deep breath, you and your knife are going to be just fine. The centering issue is prevalent with axis models, but it is not exclusive to just benchmade. Almost any knife from anywhere can have centering issues. Sometimes this can be fixed by simply adjusting the pivot, or taking the knife apart to make sure everything is in line. If the knife is straight when deployed it is probably fine, but if it bugs you and you are not comfortable with taking it apart, send it to benchmade and wait on them to send it back. The area that is unpainted looks fine. That small of an area is not going to cause the knife to rust away and fall apart. You will be fine. I suspect you are not taking this knife scuba diving or dipping it in salt water. If you are worried about it a bit of any kind of oil will protect it just like the edge, doesnt take a lot and you dont have to do it all that often. No worries there. Now the deployment issue is nothing to worry about either. I highly doubt you have flung the knife with enough force to cause anything to fail or weaken. Flicking it out like that is more dangerous for yourself and those around you. You have not hurt the knife and its all going to be fine.

Synopsis, There is nothing to worry about, its all going to be ok. If you are that concerned send it to benchmade and wait for them to send it back, but I dont think that is all that necessary.

Hope this helps!
 
The Trout said:
do you mean blade play when its open or closed? when i was looking at the centering when its closed, i can budge it with my thumb a bit more toward the center, it feels solid when its open but now im wondering if im imagining there is a bit of play, i dont think so though. what sort of damage would i be looking for? to be honest im not even sure what a tang is
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You didn't damage it and the resistance you mentioned earlier is normal. It's the back of the blade ( the tang) making contact with the axis bar. It will get more polished as you open and close it.
With practice you'll be able to thumb flick it open or gently open it with the axis lock and a slight wrist move.

If the centering bothers you , don't accept it , send it to BM for warranty work.
 
iwouldhurtafly said:
Not being rude so if I come off that way let me apologize in advance. However, just take a deep breath, you and your knife are going to be just fine. The centering issue is prevalent with axis models, but it is not exclusive to just benchmade. Almost any knife from anywhere can have centering issues. Sometimes this can be fixed by simply adjusting the pivot, or taking the knife apart to make sure everything is in line. If the knife is straight when deployed it is probably fine, but if it bugs you and you are not comfortable with taking it apart, send it to benchmade and wait on them to send it back. The area that is unpainted looks fine. That small of an area is not going to cause the knife to rust away and fall apart. You will be fine. I suspect you are not taking this knife scuba diving or dipping it in salt water. If you are worried about it a bit of any kind of oil will protect it just like the edge, doesnt take a lot and you dont have to do it all that often. No worries there. Now the deployment issue is nothing to worry about either. I highly doubt you have flung the knife with enough force to cause anything to fail or weaken. Flicking it out like that is more dangerous for yourself and those around you. You have not hurt the knife and its all going to be fine.

Synopsis, There is nothing to worry about, its all going to be ok. If you are that concerned send it to benchmade and wait for them to send it back, but I dont think that is all that necessary.

Hope this helps!
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haha ok thanks no need to apologize i am just being nervous cause apart from a taiwanese m16 this is the first "real" knife ive had and i want to make sure i take care of it and can count on it
 
JPD1998 said:
You didn't damage it and the resistance you mentioned earlier is normal. It's the back of the blade ( the tang) making contact with the axis bar. It will get more polished as you open and close it.
With practice you'll be able to thumb flick it open or gently open it with the axis lock and a slight wrist move.

If the centering bothers you , don't accept it , send it to BM for warranty work.
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ok thanks it sounds like im being paranoid
 
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