Imagine... A major terrorist attack has taken down your supply of energy. What now?

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The fact that most of the modern world is "modern"
is due to our never ending( ??) supply of energy.
A lot of the folk's at the forum's carry the basics to
cover most daily chores.

Our government will respond in time to the event. There will,
however , be a window of time where you will have to adpt to
making do until the infra stucture is rebuilt. Will your daily carry
assist you in this transistion period??

Now I'm not talking crude survivial here. The question is intended
to point out the value of simple daily carry tools / blades that all
to often taken for granted or discounted by the general public.
This scenario can also apply to a natrual disaster.

Normally a question of this type would be posted in the wilderness
forum ,but this question begs a larger audiance.
 
One of the upsides to such a scenario is that it would quickly weed out the liberals who have such disdain for practical tools as knives and guns!! No more government?!! what to do? what to do??? ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Stick my Spyderco Chinook in my pocket, my Becker C/U7 on my belt, and my Tressitu TZ-99 (9mm automatic) in my waistband, a world without energy is haven for bad people to come, and i'll not suffer against renegades under such circumstances. It is my personal opinion that a complete loss of energy would cause a social breakdown in which certain laws may or may not have to be skewed. Let's just hope this day never comes.
 
Flip the switch and go to generator power. The terrorists in California right now are Govenor Davis and the power companies. We were lucky to have a mild summer last year and keep rolling blackouts to a minimum. I doubt if that will happen two years in a row.
 
Honda generator and of course all the other stuff.
Oh by the way we're used to not having power for
periods of time in the "Peoples Republic":D
 
Yep, you folk's in the great state of California have a had a preview
of what I'm talking about. Now take it to limt that no power will be
available for week's or months.
 
We in California have had previews of life without modern convenience well before last years energy disaster. The folks in San Diego have missed out on the earthquakes but bore the brunt of deregulation before the rest of the state, a legacy that proceeds the current Democratic Head of State.
 
Head over to Don Rearic's site: www.drearic.com

He has a detailed description of an "Urban Survival Kit" that fits into an Altoids tin and contains alot of basic lifesaving stuff.
 
The only thing I'd miss is the fridge. Electricity is not really a 'necessity' in my opinion. When I was a kid we lived without power or running water for several years. It wasn't that onerous at all...
 
I live 4 blocks from the WTC... on September 11, I was on the corner of West street and Warren when the first plane flew over my head and into it's target. Power, phone, gas and water in the immediate area went out immediately. Cellular antenna arrays went dead and streets were sealed off immediately...

What I did see were people helping strangers and neighbors alike. I saw the community band together and check on those who were less able bodied. I saw restaurants cook up what they had and offer it to anyone who needed or wanted... free of charge. I saw the able-bodied push a caravan of carts to walk the 2 miles to the closest operating supermarket to get necessities for the neighborhood before the Red cross arrived.

What I also saw were red cross volunteers turn away and refuse to service minorities at relief stations and food-giveaways.

As for a knife, pretty much useless except for self defense and opening boxes of relief supplies.
 
Without power = No TV, no computer, no internet, no light to read by.

(Turning to look over my shoulder)"Hey babe (Mrs. Hal)I'm ready to fool around now" :D

(sound from other room) "Don't bother, I sent out while you were busy.":eek:
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh NO!!!!!!! I war gamed all this kind of stuff to death for Y2K. Pissed off the wife, scared the kids etc. But did not go whole hog luckily. Those guys are still bunkered in the woods somewhere. I also now live outside the zone of a likely nuclear attack. So in answer to your scenario I will use all the still unused Y2K preps and gear I have stored to deal with it. It would be NO problem unless it was the dead of winter, then it would be a medium problem. But unlike the Y2K nightmare scenario, It would not be power out everywhere and therefore help would flow to the affected area, much like when a hurricane hits etc. The Y2k Scenario had no help coming with supposedly no power nation wide and then riots, looting , panic etc. Knives will not be playing a huge role in my plans. Think Dinty Moore beef stew and canned tuna. And yes that is a bazooka behind the door, thank you.:D
 
I guess I'd have to keep the beer in the stream out back instead of the fridge to keep it cold, and wash our dishes by hand instead of using the machine, but other than that, I don't see a big problem.

Well, vacuuming the dog fur out of the carpets would be a pain without power - I probably could fire up the generator once a week for that.
 
In the last 20 years I've lived without power, running water, indoor plumbing, and telephone, twice.
Once for two years, and once for three years, you know what somehow ya manage, somehow you figure a way to get what ya need. You also find out you need very little to get by, a good source of water, a way to stay warm, and some form of entertainment,(read many good books those years) learned how to run my boom box radio of a 12 volt motorcycle battery, leared how to start a fire real fast, and realized that when you have a dishwasher, you use to damn many dishes.

Worst part, The Runs at 2am in the dead of winterwith 6" of fresh snow on the ground:( .

But ya know what I'm a better person for it now, I appreciate the modern things in life, but I know I can manage without them:).

Also I became closer to my wife in those years,(had to stay close so she couldn't hit me:D )and built a stronger relationship.
 
Got an old white Gas Coleman single mantle lantern and a large two burner white gas stove. In a pinch both can be run on unleaded gas. Ten gallons in jerry cans will give us light and let us cook the canned food in the pantry for a long time. We keep extra mantles for the lantern and a spare pump and generator for the stove to insure uninterupted service.

jmx
 
Interesting question. I live about 3 blocks away from a prime terrorist target in NYC (I'd rather not disclose because I don't want to be accused of giving any tangos any ideas) and I remind my wife every day that one of the prime terrorist target in NYC is what she sees every day when she leaves our apartment . I keep a minimal BOB just in case (I'm not a survivalist, but just like the lottery, hey, you never know.). My BOB contains the basic and bare minimum (i.e. am/fm radio, multitool, medium sized blade, Surefire flashlight w/ spare batts., Clif Bars, etc.)

All I can say is that, If you're not wiped out by whomever it is that wants to do you in, your attitude and perserverence, should see you through.

Al
 
Originally posted by Cityhawk
I'd rather not disclose because I don't want to be accused of giving any tangos any ideas
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I'm pretty sure they know all the targets already, and have them on a prioritized list of how important each target is, and how accessable they are.
 
and I live in Texas, the first thing I'm going to do is
SWEAT!
Have some gallon jugs of water, and a 5-gallon can of gas for
some additional travel. Also have a marine battery and a solar panel to recharge it, so I can power one 12 volt fan for some air movement.
Lighting would be kerosene. Access to water would be the most pressing item where I'm at, at least if we're going past 1 week.
 
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