Impulse purchases in Argentina

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I was at the Mataderos fair over the weekend and bought a few knifes there. It's a regional gaucho fair that's held every weekend. Most of these where in the $20-$30 dollar range and I can only assume the quality to be questionable at best but thought they were interesting. They are assorted horn, bone, and ostrich claw. If anyone can tell me anything from the pics that be great. I won't be offended if someone knowledgable says they are terrible as I'm sure while they were handmade, they could not be anything amazing. At least not at these prices.

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They look really interesting. Quite honestly I don't think i'd be able to hold the one with the claw... kinda freaks me out haha
 
Yeah, my wife bought that one cause it was just plain weird. Straight from the vendor the one with the patterned blade is sharp while the other ones need work. I don't know what metal was used for these though I think there was mention of 4140 something or other. I'm new to the forums and my only experience is with GEC folders.
 
I think they look like really near examples of handmade, regional, Gaucho knives. Most likely forged from some re-purposed steel springs. Depending on the makers skill with the heat treatment, they could be quite serviceable knives. Heck, good old 1095 is as simple as it gets, it's iron and carbon, and it can be fantastic. Looks like they are unique and cool regardless. Sharpen them up and use them. Then report back PLEASE. I'm curious :) P.S., I would have bought at least one as well.
 
You're down here in my home town? Hope you're enjoying the rotten weather. :)

Those three are a kind of traditional fixed blade pattern that we call "puñal criollo" (following the terminology proposed by local collector and writer Abel Domenech). They are what you'll typically find at a tourist spot like the Feria de Mataderos. Some of those blade work surprisingly well, though. Most of our knife industry is located in Tandil (south of the Buenos Aires province), and got started around WWII when imported blades became hard to get. Nowadays they use whatever carbon steel they can lay their hands on, so quality is a bit hit or miss. Most people here use this type of knife as personal steak knives for "asados", rural work knives tend to be larger but of similar design (with wood or stag handles most of the time, silver for showing off).

The knife marked RDM was made by Roberto de María, from José C. Paz (Buenos Aires province). I've seen some interesting stuff from him, he uses mostly 1070 and 5160. I haven't used any of his knives.

If you're still here and you can read Spanish, try to get a copy of "Dagas de Plata" by Abel Domenech, a fantastic book on Argentine knives with lots of photos (the best one, in my opinion). We've got excellent, very talented bladesmiths in Buenos Aires, if you're interested in meeting some of them I can send you a couple of phone numbers and e-mail addresses. Oh, and if you've got the chance, visit the town of San Antonio de Areco. It's close to Buenos Aires and there are lots of tradional silversmiths there that make beautiful stuff (lots and lots of knives!), and other activities mostly centred on recreating "gaucho" culture.

Let me know if you need any info from a local.
 
Thanks, I was born here but have spent most of my life in the US so while I don't write very well in castellano I can speak it fine. I bought all the knives pictured from Roberto de Maria though I think the ones with his initials was a bit pricier do to nicer metal. Again, I don't know too much about the quaility and do to the rain here he was the only one selling knives at mataderos last Sunday. There was a guy selling stuff on the street in Palermo but while almost double the price, the quality didn't seem that great.
 
Here are some other ones we bought from Roberto. The silver one I bought in a tourist type shop but I noticed the blade was engraved differently than most of the metal ones I'd come acros and seemed to have a nicer finish. Again, I'm clueless when it comes to this. I just figured the blade didn't seem as crude.




 
FWIW, I would have bought those knives all day, every day. I think they look nice. Heck, I've spent more and had less to show for it. I think you did well.
 
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