Indonesian Scam!

Alarion

Alarion

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Recently some knifemakers, among whom some famous names, have been swindled by indonesian buyers who bought knives paying with credit cards which resulted eventually to be fake!
The news come to me from a highly reputed smith who asked me to spread the voice as much as I can, to warn other smiths to be careful with buyers from the far east and Indonesia in particular.
Forewarned is forearmed.:rolleyes:
 
I believe there have been threads in the Shop Talk forum about this very thing. Most makers have now stopped taking credit card orders from overseas.
 
Got a $7200 order from henry_wjy0@lycos.com in Indonesia using an unauthorized Chase Manhattan credit card. Their security department seemed pretty interested. This would've have been the very first time that I actually made money on the sale of knives.
 
My school, St. Paul Lutheran School, is setting up a merchant account right now so that we can accept Credit and ATM cards for Tuition payments. The bank assured me that once they give us an authorization number, the bank has guaranteed to pay us and any fraud or other problem is between the bank and the perpetrator. So, don't ship the knives until the bank approves the card and gives you the authorization number. In most cases, that approval and authorization number comes in less than one minute.
 
Chuck, you may want to check into that a little more. I received authorization from Visa for a purchase that was later reversed and the store I worked for had the money taken out of its account. I had gotten a signed letter of permission to charge the amount to his credit card, plus a photocopy of the card, and the persons drivers licence that had the same signature. Visa didn't care. They told me that the authorization number they give means nothing if there is no authenticated signature on the Visa slip.
 
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