Inertia opening and the axis lock

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aguijonmagico

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Hello.

I'm practising inertia openings with a Benchmade 741 Onslaught.
It opens really fast.
But every time it opens, the "clack" I feel kinda worries me. I know that other would say something like "it opens with authority".
My concern is this: using this type of opening isn't very similar to banging the knife blade up against a hard surface alla cold steel absolute proof?
Can I damage the lock using inertia openings?
 
ok.
I gather then that the stress on the stop pins happens anytime you use an inertia opening in any folding knife having a stop pin. Common sense.
An assisted opening doesn't stresses also the stop pin, or some other part (thinking of the torsion bar) when you open the blade?

What I'm saying, is this: hey, I want a tactical folder, I want to be able to open it really fast, it's not weavable (if the word exists) and it turns out that I can´t use inertia opening because I'm damaging the knife. Dissapointing.

thanks for your fast reply.

The onslaught has a thumb hole, but it's not near as fast for deployment for where I carry it, tip up in front pocket.

You grab the handle, take it out, inertia, and you have the blade open in reverse grip.
And you look mean :p

Using the thumb hole is fast, but not that fast...and mean looking. My inner mall/backyard ninja has died a little today.
 
The stop pin is hardened steel but flicking that large blade compared to other methods will wear the knife out faster. As for the "looking mean" part, that usually changes with age. ;)
 
This is the only way I open my Axis locks. By doing so, I haven't had any issues with up and down blade play, unlike my leafstorm.
 
jkarp_53 said:
The stop pin is hardened steel but flicking that large blade compared to other methods will wear the knife out faster.
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And with Benchmade's awesome customer service and warranty repair policy, if you actually wear out the hardened steel stop pin, Benchmade will replace it.
 
Moreover, how many flicks would it take to cause the stop pin or liners or blade tang to fail? I'm guessing it would be quite a few, as I have probably flicked my older 940 and 710 about ten thousand times each and they're both fine, as far as I can tell.
 
Ok.
The last replies are more in the lines of what I was hoping to hear in the first place :D
But I've also red the few initial ones, and now my mind is TAINTED. Inertia opening will never be the same for me. I love this knife. The idea of hurting she even a little bit pains my heart.

Thank you very much for your answers.
 
It's a metal and (G10 I'm guessing) tool, with a killer warranty, and you're using the knife basically the way it was designed for. If you actually use it for anything but looking mean, then just send it back to Benchmade for warranty servicing whenever you feel it's the right time for it. I've got my first couple of Benchmades only recently, but from my time on the forum and my own observations I think I'm going to have to work very hard to beat these knives.

Besides even if you are the type to avoid fixing possessions by replacing them when aged, in four, eight, twelve years, when that knife is starting to show some signs of age, or not, you will likely have enough money to buy another.
 
aguijonmagico said:
Ok.
The last replies are more in the lines of what I was hoping to hear in the first place :D
But I've also red the few initial ones, and now my mind is TAINTED. Inertia opening will never be the same for me. I love this knife. The idea of hurting she even a little bit pains my heart.

Thank you very much for your answers.
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It's a 520 and not a 741, but you get the idea...
[video=youtube;5_uLO7hgQog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_uLO7hgQog[/video]
 
Wow! Great video! I really wanna try a Axis lock! I have all frame lock and 2 Emerson's. my commander did fail a unintentional spine whack Tuesday. Never had a Axis lock and have always wanted a Benchmade 940.
 
Even if the stop pin did start to ware, the way the axis lock works it automatically adjusts to that type of ware. Lets say you have a flat spot forming on the stop pin were the blade contacts it, this won't really matter because the spring tension on the lock bar that rides along the ramped tang portion on the back of the blade
is actually self adjusting.
 
So you like snapping your knife open, that's fine, just keep your filthy mitts off of my blades! ;)

I don't even know how many times I wrist flicked my 722, a very safe estimate, 12,000 times until the day I lost it.

I do it less now, axis lock is like part of my body and with the same EDC... Also not being a mall ninja.. No need to flick it out.

Benchmade. Just do it.
 
You won't hurt your knife by slinging the blade open as long as it's an axis lock. With a thin blade like the Onslaught your in more danger of fracturing the blade than damaging the lock.
 
loonybin said:
It's a 520 and not a 741, but you get the idea...
[video=youtube;5_uLO7hgQog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_uLO7hgQog[/video]
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That is an impressive video. I see now that my limited use is nothing compared to the actual abuse these knives can take.
 
Now that its discontinued, the Benchmade 741 is about to become very popular. :)

Really neat knife.

Funny how that works............
 
dfsutton said:
That is an impressive video. I see now that my limited use is nothing compared to the actual abuse these knives can take.
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I agree that it is actual abuse and that some knives can take it to a certain degree: but that still does not mean it is a smart thing to do. I can take a woodworking tool, like really nice plane made of meticulously finished hardwood and use it to hammer down some nails or a chisel: it will probably take that abuse all right, but I cannot see how it is cool?
 
Yeah, they are testing the knives which is good for us. The way she opens the knife at 2:05 is a pretty standard way/force for me and is what I consider normal.
 
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