Inexpensive Knife for MArine USes

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I recently asked about a good river knife, i think what i should have asked is what kind of blade steel would be best for the marine environment but is all inexpensive. I know spyderco uses H1 steel but would 420j2 or 440A/b be ok steels. Why spend a lot of money for aknife that may get lost in a marine situation?

Anyone ever use the NRS Pilot Knife?
 
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I would definitely stay away from the 420j2.I think it's like the lowest grade steel you can fined, you cannot get a decent edge on it ,and if you can the edge it won't last long.
 
Perhaps a SOG seal pup or pup elite. Not THAT expensive and decent quality. I have a a Seal Pup elite myself. Wonderful knife.
 
+1 on the Moras. The Frosts Clipper has the best sheath of all the Moras in my opinion, but the Craftsman series has slightly larger blades. If you decide on a Craftsman you might want to learn how to make your own sheaths.
 
oh yeah you are definetly looking for 0-1 tool steel, perfect for any and all rust-free situations ;)
 
440A from the right company isn't the worst, but why bother? 420J2 is beneath notice. Go for a stainless Mora Clipper for a cheap backup. Go for a Spydie Salt for a reasonably priced EDC that is also Rostfrei. :D The Salt will be ideal for food prep and ordinary cutting.
 
Any of the Spyderco Salt knives would be my first recommendations followed by the Gerber River knife as a close second. I've had one of the Gerbers for a lot of years and its been a good tough user and very much rust free. Great back pack and kayaking companion that easily clips to your belt, or straps on your pack or PFD.

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There was an article some 8 years ago in a knife mag. about the Green Berets and their top five knife choices. The Buck 119 was #3. Granted it's not a knife to pry with, but it's light weight. Also Wal-mart has the Short Nighthawk for $39.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
440A from the right company isn't the worst, but why bother? 420J2 is beneath notice. Go for a stainless Mora Clipper for a cheap backup. Go for a Spydie Salt for a reasonably priced EDC that is also Rostfrei. :D The Salt will be ideal for food prep and ordinary cutting.
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I've seen Rostfrei on lots of knives...is that knife company? Do they make good knives?

hehehehehe....
 
The Spyderco Salt knives get rave reviews from the people I know who use them, but price is still a factor with them and I can see why you would balk at buying something overly expensive. I can say that 420J is just one step up from Silly Putty, but what sort of cutting one does makes a big difference. The Moras are a good way to go, but again, depending on what you want them for.

Marine environment...does that mean nylon nautical rope? What size knife are you looking for? Moras come in two sizes mostly. Small and Extra Small, except for the fillet knives. Still, if they'll do you, go for it.

Another option is Smith & Wesson knives. They put out some decent-sized, fairly good knives that do pretty well.

The Aquatic Diving Knife

Search and Rescue

Search & Rescue Clip Point

Hunting Series

Search & Rescue Bowie

I've had good luck with many S&W knives, though I'm judicious in which ones I buy. These are a bit larger than the Moras, but if the Moras will work for you, I think I'd go with them. If you need something larger, I wouldn't hesitate to pick up one or two Smiths. You can also pick up one or two cheap Cold Steel G.I. Tantos. I wouldn't think you could use a carbon steel blade around salt water, but I have a friend who routinely went diving in Hawaii with a Cold Steel Carbon V blade and he had no problems. After diving with it, he'd soak it in cold fresh water, dry it off and then coat it with BreakFree.
 
morrowj_98 said:
I've seen Rostfrei on lots of knives...is that knife company? Do they make good knives?

hehehehehe....
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Rastafrei,
that's what I
carry when it rains!

Cheap as dirt,
in the storm it won't hurt
if it washes down the drains.

Tough as nails,
it never fails,
no one dares complain!
 
I had to Google it, actually :p

Rostfrei is apparently German for "will not rust" (stainless)? Well, at least according to Yahoo Answers...

Esav Benyamin said:
Rastafrei,
that's what I
carry when it rains!

Cheap as dirt,
in the storm it won't hurt
if it washes down the drains.

Tough as nails,
it never fails,
no one dares complain!
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I have a Spyderco Pacific Salt which I love. Nearly 4" of H1 steel, and only 3 oz (the Salt 1 is 2 oz and 3"). If you're looking for a FB, maybe the Aqua or Rock Salts?
 
Plastic handled Moras are good. The 12C27 on Frosts and 12C27mod on Erikssons is pretty close to 440A in performance. Several models are available in bright colors, which might be of use. 12C27mod is especially resistant to rust.

420J2 is perfectly useful blade steel. Unfortunately, companies that use it are not usually interested in making perfectly useful blades. However, it is used by several reputable companies such as Kershaw for diving type knives.
 
MValborg said:
ill vouch for a 119 if that means anything
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From age ten till thirteen it was a Buck 119 that I carried all over Tampa bay, and the Hilsborough River area. Carried it out into the gulf in the boat on a LOT of fishing trips. Cut lots of bait and cleaned lots of fish with it. Cut lots of cooking sticks and improvised grills, and forked sticks for supporting fishing poles. The whole time it handled the salt water and salt air just fine. Broke it in half in the middle of a bad winter here in Tn. being a stupid teenager throwing it at a tree. The blade stuck good but broke halfwat between the tip and handguard and the handle bounced off the tree and flew on. I really missed that knife, now I buy actual throwing knives and keep my knives inside my clothing in the dead of winter. My one complaint looking back with what I know now is that the handle could get slick quick with blood on your hands and no lanyard hole, for that the seal pup elite definitely has advantages, just has a shorter blade is all.
 
Getahl said:
I had to Google it, actually :p

Rostfrei is apparently German for "will not rust" (stainless)? Well, at least according to Yahoo Answers...



Edit, back on topic:

I have a Spyderco Pacific Salt which I love. Nearly 4" of H1 steel, and only 3 oz (the Salt 1 is 2 oz and 3"). If you're looking for a FB, maybe the Aqua or Rock Salts?
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Getahl...thank you for looking that up for me. To be honest I was goofing around. My questions were meant as a joke as they have been asked here too many times too count. :D
 
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