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magnumXII888

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i have caught a few post about busse coming out with a replacement steel that will make infi "obsolete" which, in itself is hard to believe but improvements can always be made in one way or another. just trying to find out if anyone has an E.T.A. on "infi 2" because i haven't had any luck finding details. maybe bossman will chime in :D

thanks guys
 
Obsolete? Heh, unless this new omega-steel actually comes over and EATS my INFI blades, those suckers will never be obsolete :D
 
I saw that thread but didn't he call it something different? I forgot exactly... someone will enlighten us... I think there was a "Q" and a "C" in there somewhere... maybe I drank a lot that night I dunno anymore.
 
Here it is... I guess I remembered a little better than I thought. Although it's still INFI but the new heat treat has a different name:

Jerry Busse said:
We have been experimenting with a new heat treating procedure for INFI that we have termed CNQ which promises to deliver a consistently higher hardness as well as, what we hope will be, a considerable increase in cutting performance on certain materials.

Of course, the incredible toughness that INFI brings to the table will be decreased, but we recognize that there are some applications where exceptional toughness is not a top priority. . . .

We will keep you updated . . .

Back to drinking. . . .

Jerry



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And link to thread... http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...With-INFI-.-.-.-.?highlight=Jerry+INFI+higher
 
Even Busse A2 knives (from the 1990s) outperform currently produced knives.
 
Gravelface said:
Even Busse A2 knives (from the 1990s) outperform currently produced knives.
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It is as one would say....all in the heat treating process....HT is such an underrated thing by many that would just chase the latest and greatest steel.
 
I'm sure INFI will still be utilized on the larger blades with the new HT used on smaller blades. Just me completely assuming though.:D
 
It sounds to me by reading the quoted post by Jerry that it is not a all new steel but experimentation with INFI. No resting on laurels. You want to be top dog, you gotta keep "improving" and innovating. I am sure that certain designs favor different heat treatments. The science in metallurgy is ever evolving.
 
Hoping any blade longer than 6.5" will remain INFI. Use the harder stuff in the small blades!!! Beaters need the strength, while your slicers can be harder. Just my .02>>>
 
RussMo said:
Hoping any blade longer than 6.5" will remain INFI. Use the harder stuff in the small blades!!! Beaters need the strength, while your slicers can be harder. Just my .02>>>
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If the newer heat treat allows the blade to be both harder and capable of resisting damage there is no reason to avoid using it on larger blades. I would love to have a basic 11 or a TTKZ that had an edge that was half as thick yet still capable of avoiding chip/fracture damage when hitting rocks, but also capable of avoiding heavy deformation.
 
"Even Busse A2 knives (from the 1990s) outperform currently produced knives."

I assume that statement refers to Busse HT A2 vs. other HT A2? Or are you saying that older Busse A2 blades outperform, say a current INFI offering? Just looking for clarification, I have never owned/used an older A2 model. Way too pricy for me.

Pete
 
pedropcola said:
"Even Busse A2 knives (from the 1990s) outperform currently produced knives."

I assume that statement refers to Busse HT A2 vs. other HT A2? Or are you saying that older Busse A2 blades outperform, say a current INFI offering? Just looking for clarification, I have never owned/used an older A2 model. Way too pricy for me.

Pete
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Sorry about the confusion. The Original post stated, "i have caught a few post about busse coming out with a replacement steel that will make infi "obsolete" which, in itself is hard to believe but improvements can always be made in one way or another." I was attempting to stated that not even Infi made the A2 "obsolete" and that they (A2 Blades) are every bit as good as any other knives out there now. I think folks sometimes think that those "inferior";) A2 blades are no good. They are the knives the Busse reputation as Hard Use was found upon and still today, I am sure MANY users out here couldn't tell a difference between A2 and Infi except under dire circumstances.
 
it was an older post i wanna say '06 or '07 in a thread about the composition of infi i believe. im having a hell of a time finding it again. i had it saved but my comp crashed. hmm....
 
magnumXII888 said:
it was an older post i wanna say '06 or '07 in a thread about the composition of infi i believe. im having a hell of a time finding it again. i had it saved but my comp crashed. hmm....
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As it has already been mentioned its less to do with the INFI steel composition and more to do with the heat treat which makes all the bussekin blades exceptional. A2 on older Busses has been talked about, there was a thread last week about the Busse heat treated 154CM being batoned thru steel pipe with no edge deformation.

I am not saying that INFI steel is not amazing, but I credit the heat treat as much as the steel.... the combination just makes the best knives produced :cool:
 
Last Visible Canary said:
If the newer heat treat allows the blade to be both harder and capable of resisting damage there is no reason to avoid using it on larger blades. I would love to have a basic 11 or a TTKZ that had an edge that was half as thick yet still capable of avoiding chip/fracture damage when hitting rocks, but also capable of avoiding heavy deformation.
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True, if it can in fact be done then it would be worth the venture down that path!!! I would like to see a blade to blade (same model) test regarding that.
 
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