InFin. Wider feedback on the taper blade/square recess issue if you could please

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I have posted this in the custom knife section but wonder if it is more appropriate here as I would love exposure/feedback from all? Mods can chastise me if needed/the knife is not for sale so not canvassing for this either.
I have always wondered why this has not been done, as far as I can tell... with my limited exposure/experience.
Anyway, folders seem to have a tapered blade into a squared recess/pocket. I made this:

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...e-v-square-pocket-issue-forged-blade.1592801/

Thank you kindly, Ignatius
 
That looks pretty slick!
I wonder if the blade would be difficult to close if too much dirt built up in the recess, and how easy or difficult it is to keep clean.
 
Looks great to me. I would think that it would be popular as more people see it. Keep it up it looks really cool.
 
Thanks for the comments and encouragement, means a lot.
 
On a scale from 1 to Neat, you definitely get that neat rating. Has something classy and stylish about it. :thumbsup:
 
That is just awesome looking--as SpySmasher SpySmasher said, that's a feature that definitely sets the knife apart. I do wonder about cleaning. Is the knife open back construction? I'm sure we'd all like to see more pics from other angles.

Edit: I posted without checking the link you provided, checking after and seeing the additional pics and video, and getting my question answered.
 
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Elegant design and tight execution. Innovative and unique. Could also see it as a slip joint.

Make sure to let people know when you are selling these!
 
Wow. Thank you. I would love to make another/others and get more direct feedback from you kind folk (I realise it is early and all the views/reports aren’t in yet...). Ig
 
I know everybody is wondering, how much are you aiming for with the price on this, and are you going to make it a regular custom?
 
It's unique and absolutely beautiful ! Was wondering about the price too... You could actually make a version without bolsters and with a monosteel blade. Should lower the price and provide an entry level solution...
 
It looks great!

I think the reasons why it's not more popular are that
1.) it will be harder to clean,
2.) it will demand extremely tight tolerances for the blade not to possibly start rubbing against the liners sooner or later,
3.) it will be more complicated to make despite the fact that
4.) there are no real practical advantages of it as far as I can see.

Esthetically it's spectacular though. I'd love to have one, but I have a feeling it's out of my price point.
 
I've asked myself that same question over the years, but i don't have your skills, :-)
The knife looks outstanding, and anyone even remotely into knives knows immediately that your design & execution involves a lot of precision work.
Probably also why i've never seen it before.
 
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danbot said:
That looks pretty slick!
I wonder if the blade would be difficult to close if too much dirt built up in the recess, and how easy or difficult it is to keep clean.
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Thank you. There is no spacer or stand-off to interfere with cleaning. Ig
 
dkb45 said:
I know everybody is wondering, how much are you aiming for with the price on this, and are you going to make it a regular custom?
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herisson said:
It's unique and absolutely beautiful ! Was wondering about the price too... You could actually make a version without bolsters and with a monosteel blade. Should lower the price and provide an entry level solution...
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kwackster said:
I've asked myself that same question over the years, but i don't have your skills,
The knife looks outstanding, and anyone even remotely into knives knows immediately that your design & execution involves a lot of precision work.
Probably also why i've never seen it before.
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Fantastic, thank you so much. I am going to make some more and might offer some here if I can.

Dr Heelhook said:
It looks great!

I think the reasons why it's not more popular are that
1.) it will be harder to clean, *No, see above kindly
2.) it will demand extremely tight tolerances for the blade not to possibly start rubbing against the liners sooner or later, *Yes
3.) it will be more complicated to make despite the fact that *Yes
4.) there are no real practical advantages of it as far as I can see. *No IMHO it reduces the butt width and the overall weight, all good for feel and carry..?

Esthetically it's spectacular though. I'd love to have one, but I have a feeling it's out of my price point.
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I have edited the post above with answers to the individual points.

It may not be out of reach...

Thanks for taking the time to give accurate and useful feedback, Ig
 
The biggest issue I can see would be locking mechanisms.

Not that every knife needs one, but I think this does limit what locking mechanisms can be used.
There's no room for a liner lock I don't think, an I don't think a lockback or slipjoint would work.
A frame lock might work, but I think a friction folder would be the best bet for it.

Besides that I can't really think of anything else that hasn't already been said and it looks beautiful.
 
Hickory n steel said:
The biggest issue I can see would be locking mechanisms.

Not that every knife needs one, but I think this does limit what locking mechanisms can be used.
There's no room for a liner lock I don't think, an I don't think a lockback or slipjoint would work.
A frame lock might work, but I think a friction folder would be the best bet for it.

Besides that I can't really think of anything else that hasn't already been said and it looks beautiful.
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Thank you, and for the time taken to give valuable detail. I am inclined to agree with you, a liner or frame lock might compromise the structural integrity (especially in this example with its slim profile, thin scales and low weight) but I might still try it! It seems to work well with the detents I do, whether with a visible or integral stop pin. Ignatius
 
From what I see, I guess you went the route of two detent balls (one for open and one for closed position). Somehow like Kansei Matsuno does (Böker Wasabi). It's a cross of friction folder and flipper. And it's definitely interesting while I just miss a positive lock to closing. You could do away with lots of precision machining, ditch the detent balls and replace the flipping nub with a lever. Et voilà ! A friction folder ! The bolted pivot would make for very accurate tuning of opening and closing action, a long enough lever would give absolute control over the opened blade (only precision work is the placement of the stop pin) and... the price goes down a little more. I love this classic blade / handle pattern and I will be all over it once you make some of them available, whatever route you take !
 
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