I was snooping around on www.tripleaughtdesign.com and saw these bad boys. Looks pretty cool and since my photonII bit the bust in a horrible battery changing accident I need a new keychain light. Anybody use one of these? How bright is it? How well is the beam shaped?I like the fact that they use a AA battery which is easy to find. The info on the web site says 40 hrs battery life, not bad at all. I figure with a lithium battery I could get 60 hours. What does everybody think?
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Infinity Task Light?
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I've got three and man are they great! I originally got the red which I think was the first and it was very bright. Then I found out they had amber but when I called Patrick at Triple Aught, he told they also had white so I ordered one of each. Very pleased with all of them. They are much, much brighter than the photons but quite a bit larger also. The AA battery is a definite plus. I highly recommend them.
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I like the size and conveinence of the photon better. The Infinity Task Light is takes up significantly more space in my pocket, and light/size isn't worth (for me anyway) carrying on a daily basis.
However, they are overall brighter than a photon, and do take much cheaper AA batteries. I wouldn't use it to replace a photon, maybe to suppliment it.
~Mitch
However, they are overall brighter than a photon, and do take much cheaper AA batteries. I wouldn't use it to replace a photon, maybe to suppliment it.
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I have the Pal light which Patrick carries, but I bought from Bright Guys. It is very handy for home/hotel use b/c of its various modes. It has a long run time in rest mode...they say 2 years. You can navigate with it in that mode inside a room or house. B/c of its unprotected switch, I would be reluctant to camp/ hike with it. For the price, I recommend it...good cool factor too.
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I can't speak for the white CMG infinity tasklight but I bought the yellow (4 samples so I probably have a good idea of the model's output, and also I'm told is brighter than the red). The photon microlight II in blue, turquoise or white, CREEEMS the yellow in brightness. Nonetheless, easy, economical battery changes are important too.
I like the infinity, but the Photon II white is brighter. The Photon is great for having on a keychain and using in a pinch, if I know I am going to have the light on for any lenght of time I grab the infinity white. It is by far, the cheapest LED light to run per hour. It is a great durable little light, but again not the brightest led I have.
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Welcome aboard Brock!!!
So good to have you here. I like the solar setup you have in your home. My recent email communications (NightStar, Solmate) with you was very enlightening for me.
I also like the Infinity although it is not as bright as the Photon because of easier battery replacement and longer shine time.
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So good to have you here. I like the solar setup you have in your home. My recent email communications (NightStar, Solmate) with you was very enlightening for me.
I also like the Infinity although it is not as bright as the Photon because of easier battery replacement and longer shine time.
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I am confused.
Phantom4 said:
UWMitch said:
Paranoid9999 said:
Brock said:
2ndEdge said:
Could we at least reach a consensus here? How bright is the damn thing, anyway? How does the focus compare with the Photon II, especially the narrow angle white?
Hoping someone will cut through the fog,
Walt
Phantom4 said:
UWMitch said:
Paranoid9999 said:
Brock said:
2ndEdge said:
Could we at least reach a consensus here? How bright is the damn thing, anyway? How does the focus compare with the Photon II, especially the narrow angle white?
Hoping someone will cut through the fog,
Walt
I am holding both of them in front of me and the photon is brighter. The photon is also whiter than the infinity. Maybe some people are comparing it to the older (older than late 99) style Photon white, with the "ring" of light? The older style was only a 4800 mcd Nichia LED and was much wider in focus. Or maybe my infinity is dimmer than most (it was one of the first ones made). You can look at the images on my sight of both of the lights and see what you think.
I just took this pic of the two of them side by side. The narrow white Photon is on the left and the infinity is on the right, both have brand new batteries for this pic. You know when I put a AA lithium (higher voltage than alkaline) in the infinity they are darn close, the infinity is just bluer.
http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/led/photon-vs-infinity.jpg
Brock - http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/led.htm
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I just took this pic of the two of them side by side. The narrow white Photon is on the left and the infinity is on the right, both have brand new batteries for this pic. You know when I put a AA lithium (higher voltage than alkaline) in the infinity they are darn close, the infinity is just bluer.
http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/led/photon-vs-infinity.jpg
Brock - http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/led.htm
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Yup. I think that the comparison is with the photon microlight Mk.1. The mk.2 is way brighter than at least the yellow CMG infinity tasklight. But batteries for the Photon microlight Mk. 2's are far more expensive and far more involved to install. The CMG infinity tasklight uses AA which are far easier to install and cheaper too. I desperately wanted to like the CMG infinity tasklight better than my photon mk. 2 but bottom line, (the yellow) is FAR, FAR less bright than the blue, turquoise or white photon mk. 2.
That's a shame, as I really wanted to pick up a white Infinity to use as my everyday light for working on computers...
Are they using the same LED as the Photon II's, just don't have the higher voltage (since the Photon II uses two batteries)?
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Are they using the same LED as the Photon II's, just don't have the higher voltage (since the Photon II uses two batteries)?
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Frank, I don't think that they're using the same LED exactly. However, (anyone correct me if I err), the voltage pushing the light is far higher in the photon mk.2 than the CMG Infinity tasklight (CIT). For the record, I still think that the CIT is a good product,(knurled aluminum body, battery will last 20 hours at full burn), but for brightness comparison, the Photon Mk 2 just plainly outshines the CIT.
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Frank C,
I think the Infinity is the perfect light for someone that is going to be using it everyday. It is not as bright as the Photon II but it is plenty bright enough to work inside a computer case for example. It would be much cheaper than a white Photon to run, and it would be harder to lose probably. I have a wrist lanyard on mine made of red paracord. Or try a white LED PALight.
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I think the Infinity is the perfect light for someone that is going to be using it everyday. It is not as bright as the Photon II but it is plenty bright enough to work inside a computer case for example. It would be much cheaper than a white Photon to run, and it would be harder to lose probably. I have a wrist lanyard on mine made of red paracord. Or try a white LED PALight.
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Voltage in Photon II's is 3V for yellow, orange and red. 6V for white, blue and turquoise. Green comes in either 3V or 6V.
Since a typical AA is 1.5 V, paranoid9999 is correct; the Photon II's do run at a higher voltage.
Which of course, brings up the possibility of using a 3V Li AA cell in the ITL. Frank C., why don't you try it out? It definitely increase the brightness. There is only one problem. While it is true that the Photon II LED's are all rated at 3V, and that the white, blue and turquoise were always run at 6V, and the green is now available at 6V as well, this does NOT mean all Photon II's can be run at 6V. The yellow, orange and red if run at 6V will have a drastically shortened LED life. This is due to the different colors being from different mfrs. The yellow orange and red are HP, IIRC, and the rest are from another mfr. (Nichia? Help me out here, Brock).
Therefore, if you run the ITL at 3V, it may work great, or blow the LED in a short while. Let us know what happens, OK?
My other concern would be the switch. The ITL seems to be an enlarged version of the Mag Light Solitaire. This was an OK light in use, but the switch sucked. It would tend to turn on accidentally, leaving you with a dead light unexpectedly. Further, if you didn't use the light for a while, the switch wouldn't function at first. You had to screw and unscrew it, whack on the light, and mutter imprecations before it would finally work. So, let us know how the switch behaves on the ITL, OK, Frank?
Onward through the fog, Walt
Since a typical AA is 1.5 V, paranoid9999 is correct; the Photon II's do run at a higher voltage.
Which of course, brings up the possibility of using a 3V Li AA cell in the ITL. Frank C., why don't you try it out? It definitely increase the brightness. There is only one problem. While it is true that the Photon II LED's are all rated at 3V, and that the white, blue and turquoise were always run at 6V, and the green is now available at 6V as well, this does NOT mean all Photon II's can be run at 6V. The yellow, orange and red if run at 6V will have a drastically shortened LED life. This is due to the different colors being from different mfrs. The yellow orange and red are HP, IIRC, and the rest are from another mfr. (Nichia? Help me out here, Brock).
Therefore, if you run the ITL at 3V, it may work great, or blow the LED in a short while. Let us know what happens, OK?
My other concern would be the switch. The ITL seems to be an enlarged version of the Mag Light Solitaire. This was an OK light in use, but the switch sucked. It would tend to turn on accidentally, leaving you with a dead light unexpectedly. Further, if you didn't use the light for a while, the switch wouldn't function at first. You had to screw and unscrew it, whack on the light, and mutter imprecations before it would finally work. So, let us know how the switch behaves on the ITL, OK, Frank?
Onward through the fog, Walt
Yes the infinity is using some sort of step up circutry. As far as the Photons go, yes they are using 2 3v lithium cells, but as soon as you turn the led on the voltage drops to just over 4v because of the load on the tiny batteries. So if you were to use 2 3v lithiums you wouldn't have an led for long.
I would guess if you put a 3v cell in the infinity it would either fry the step up circut of blow the led in a short amount of time. I have now switched my infinity over to a lithium AA cell (standard 1.6v), they run at a slightly higher voltage, and maintain their voltage until the bitter end of their life. The lithiums are also lighter making the infinity lighter overall. It is also the same brightness as the narrow white photon, but more blue in color.
Brock
I would guess if you put a 3v cell in the infinity it would either fry the step up circut of blow the led in a short amount of time. I have now switched my infinity over to a lithium AA cell (standard 1.6v), they run at a slightly higher voltage, and maintain their voltage until the bitter end of their life. The lithiums are also lighter making the infinity lighter overall. It is also the same brightness as the narrow white photon, but more blue in color.
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Brock; Bryan Avery posted on the Photon Discussion Forum some time ago that the green LED was OK to run at 6V; LED life was not significantly decreased. That is why they are coming from the factory in 3V and 6V.
True, the HP LEDs (yellow, orange and red) are more voltage sensitive, and cannot be run very long at 6V. Walt
True, the HP LEDs (yellow, orange and red) are more voltage sensitive, and cannot be run very long at 6V. Walt