Initial Thoughts on Four New Khuks

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Will provide more detail at a later date but wanted to get this first impression post up ASAP.

Today I received the following:

18" Gelbu Special, horn
18" Sirupati, wood
18" Chitlangi, horn
(all three above made by Kumar Bishwakarma)

15" Sirupati, horn, made by the Kami who marks his blades with R.R. and what appears to be a swastika of sorts.

Then compared them to my kid's and my own two 15" BAS's (both horn).

First, the 15" Sirupati is real sweet. There is no doubt that this is a first-class fighting knife. Very light, very agile, yet still possessing the world-famous Khukuri blade presence. I can see why it is a favorite of many here.

Myself, I'm still kind of lukewarm on it, but then I'm kinda going through some serious sensory overload on the three 18-inchers. That's a little much to take in one day (grin). In any event, I got the 15-incher for my kid, but she is adament about her loyalty to her 15" BAS, preferring it by a strong margin over the 15" Sura.

I may or may not keep the 15" Siru myself. I'll need to revisit it.

Here is a quick comparison of the three 18's:

The 18" Sirupati feels heavier and seems to balance more toward the tip than the other two. Oddly enough, although the 18" Siru was the first Khuk I really liked from an asthetic standpoint, and one I was sure I'd like from a handling standpoint, it leaves me kind of cold. Not really sure why. The wood handle on it is beautiful, by the way.

The other two, the Chitlangi and Gelbu both struck me like thunderbolts. The Chit gives one the same feeling a 16 year old has the first time they drive a Corvette Stingray - a kind of "Whoa! Holy mackeral!! This is hot!!!"

I don't know how well this rather light-weight blade would do cutting heavy wood, but I've no doubt this is a supremely effective combat weapon. Astonishingly agile yet possessing very substantial blade presence. Could it sever limbs? Dunno. I figure that cuts to the wrists might sever hands. Maybe cuts to the upper arm might sever arms, but I'm not so sure. I must ponder this a bit.

But, you don't have to sever a limb to inflict a fight ending blow.

Now, the Gelbu Special is nothing short of awesome. Completely awesome. A number of folks here have described this as probably the best "all-around" Khukuri, and so far, I'd have to agree. In spite of the way both the Chit and Gelbu have smitten my heart, they have not diminished my ardent affection for my 15" BAS.

I bring that up because this particular 18" Gelbu Special seems to weigh and balance very similarly to my 15" BAS. When holding them with my eyes closed, I have difficulty telling them apart.

Wait a sec......

Just had to know. I just got through weighing the Gelbu and this one weighs EXACTLY the same as my BAS (20-oz), and I'm betting if I measure their points of balance they will be within an eighth of an inch of each other.

Very interesting. We see what is essentially the same amount of blade steel in both Khuk's, but because of the heavily fullered design of the Gelbu, we are able to have a longer blade, and thus have the tactical advantage of reach and the mechanical advantage of faster angular momentum during the cut.

(This is also why I prefer my medieval swords to be those types with rather aggressive fullers.)

All in all, I like all the new Khuks I got today, but the Chitlangi and Gelbu took my breath away. The Sirupatis are terrific knifes, but the 15" seems a bit more delicate than what I prefer, and the 18" seems to be less "alive" than I prefer. I'll need to revisit them both when I am less tired.

I am also really pleased that my 15.5 (true measurement) inch BAS still retains so much of my affection. I like its balance and heft, and I also like the fact that it is still relatively compact. It's kinda like having a Gelbu compressed down into a more handy size (grin).

One other thing that struck me was how different the handles felt. The Chit's was slender, almost delicate feeling in comparison to the Gelbu's which was quite substantial (as is the handle on my BAS). I am quite partial to "full-figured" handles, so no doubt this is one feature that so strongly enamored me of the Gelbu and BAS.

I hope to do some more testing of the Khuks this weekend, especially the BAS since I owe Uncle Bill a more detailed review than the initial one I did on it when I first got it.

Don

PS: Just noticed something - the tip profiles on those Khuks reminds of sharks. That's pretty cool.
 
Don, I will boil a lot of words down to: "Wait til you handle a chainpuri." Definitely a weapon. More than a malla, chit, or siru. Love them all, but she screams "weapon".
 
Originally posted by Aardvark
Don, I will boil a lot of words down to: "Wait til you handle a chainpuri." Definitely a weapon. More than a malla, chit, or siru. Love them all, but she screams "weapon".

Yeah, kinda afraid of that. Had my eye on a Chainpuri ever since I learned of it. So many Khuks, so little money (sigh).

Don
 
Have to second Aard's recommendation re: the Chainpuri. As a fighter, it not only puts all those silly black epoxy tac knives to shame, it has them cringing under the bed, wetting themselves in fear... :D

But do enjoy the heck out of your other khuks! What a collection already!
 
I also received a bundle of joy from Uncle Bill today.

15" AK (horn)
18" Gelbu Special (wood)
21" Gelbu Special (wood)

The AK and the 18" GS by Kumar, the 21" by "Y ! B"

Like Don, I can only offer first impressions of these blades; testing will follow soon.

The 21" GS: Omigosh, this thing is huge! I didn't anticipate the sheer "whatthehellisthat?" presence of this humongous chopper. The blade's spine near the handle is a tiny hair shy of 1/2". The balance is very far forward; I can easily visualize myself hewing down small trees in a single stroke with this behemoth. The handle is correspondingly large, allowing me a two-handed grip if I slide my base hand all the way to the back. The fit is perfect; the finish is quite good, though the bolster is slightly lopsided and displays file marks (easily fixed) and the cho is slag-choked (also easily fixed). A very formidable blade, and considerably more "substantial" than I expected from the GS. I can't see myself fencing with it, but that Keawe log I've been working at is toast.
What a beast! :D

The 18" GS: Such a contrast...this blade is light, lithe, and refuses to sit still in my hand. The balance, at about 1" tipward of the cho, seems perfect for this blade...I can move it effortlessly through slashes and lunges from any position, quick as lightning.
I reckon it'd be fine for hewing through moderate underbrush, but I'm not sure that I'd want to use it for heavy work. More weapon than tool, IMO.

the 15" AK: I can see why this's HI's "best seller". Compact but powerful; Kumar's handle is a perfect fit for my hand (My BAS's by Sher and "!" were a tad narrow for my grip). I also prefer its balance to that of the BAS, thanks to the ang khola fuller. The AK was also sharpest of the 3 "out of the box". This blade was a "Steal of the Day", and I definitely feel felonious as I heft this magnificent work of art. For now, the AK will replace the BAS as my field carry (pending the arrival/testing of the Chiruwa).

The scabbards, frogs, chakmas and kardas are top notch on all 3 blades. I'm tickled pink with all 3, as they all fit different performance niches, and each displays its own unique personality. Each one of them will have their chance to square off against The Log (as featured in my upcoming "Khukhuri Khronicles Pt. I: Me vs Log") as did my BAS...I'll share the results as time permits. :)

*chuckle* I had CNN on in the background as I typed this...they ran one of Arnold Schwartzenegger's upcoming campaign ads. All I could think of was:

"Vote for me...if you want to live."
:D
 
Welcome to the 18" Gelbu Special fan club, Don. Mine is made by Bura, but I do not know its exact weight as I lack a scale. I love it...it is the first khukuri I pick up when I look at my collection of HI stuff.
 
That 15"siru bu RR could find a real nice spot in my buffet next to the rest of my RR collection:D
 
Originally posted by Kmark
Welcome to the 18" Gelbu Special fan club, Don. Mine is made by Bura, but I do not know its exact weight as I lack a scale. I love it...it is the first khukuri I pick up when I look at my collection of HI stuff.

I got some time off work this afternoon - I needed it. I've been going ten straight days thanks to this recent computer virus crap.

Anyhoo, when I got home I played with all the Khuks for a while and concluded that my new 18" Gelbu Special is probably the #1 Best All-Around Khuk of the six I have.

It seems just the tiniest bit too big, but that is outweighed by everything else it does well.

My second place rating is real close to being a tie between my 15" BAS and my 18" Chitlangi. I like the BAS better because of its compact, "densely packed firepower" coupled with a very sweet and handy balance, but I really like the 18" Chit's longer reach and more weapon-like profile.

I haven't made a decision on 3rd/4th Place yet. I really want to like the 18" Sirupati because of its graceful lines and well-done woodwork, but something about the balance doesn't seem right. Still trying to figure out if this is something that I will come to like with familiarity, or if I ought to just accept the fact that sometimes certain blades and certain blade-wielders just don't fit.

What is interesting is my 18" Siru, 18" Gelbu, and 15" BAS all weigh 20-oz so I have the luxury of being able to compare at least three Khuks of the same weight. My kid's BAS weighs 21-oz and the 18" Chitlangi weighs 18-oz.

Don
 
Don,

Wow, you must have asked Uncle to send you some light khuks...

I find that my 18" Chitlangi has a little deeper belly than the Gelbu, and seems to have a bigger sweet spot for heavy chopping like wood. Easier and less fatiguing to use than the Gelbu. It seems a better chopper than the 18 Gelbu, and unless splitting, I like to use it more than a heavier 20" Sirupati. Of course, the AK's or Ganga Rams are probably the best for heavy chopping.

I know that's not really you"re intended use, but other than the handles, that's one of the main differences to me between the Gelbu and the Chit.
 
Once again we see that each khukuri is different.
Mamav, you beat me to an offer on the 15" Sirupati.
 
Originally posted by mamav
That 15"siru bu RR could find a real nice spot in my buffet next to the rest of my RR collection:D

Hey, MamaV:

I was kind of surprised that my daughter decided not to keep the 15" Siru. As of yesterday I was undecided whether or not to keep it for myself.

Was looking at it today after a much needed two hour nap and was quite taken with it really. Can't figure out why my kid doesn't want it. It's beautiful with a nice feel and heft to it.

As far as a camping or hunting knife, it does everything my larger Camillus does, plus does a better job at heavier cutting, ie, as a kind of miniature machete really. And on top of that, it is a really cool looking knife (grin).

Motion carried (sound of gavel banging). The 15" Siru is officially mine.

Now the hard part is deciding which Khuk to wear when I go camping (grin).

Don
 
Originally posted by Don Nelson
I got some time off work this afternoon - I needed it. I've been going ten straight days thanks to this recent computer virus crap.

Anyhoo, when I got home I played with all the Khuks for a while and concluded that my new 18" Gelbu Special is probably the #1 Best All-Around Khuk of the six I have.

It seems just the tiniest bit too big, but that is outweighed by everything else it does well.

My second place rating is real close to being a tie between my 15" BAS and my 18" Chitlangi. I like the BAS better because of its compact, "densely packed firepower" coupled with a very sweet and handy balance, but I really like the 18" Chit's longer reach and more weapon-like profile.

I haven't made a decision on 3rd/4th Place yet. I really want to like the 18" Sirupati because of its graceful lines and well-done woodwork, but something about the balance doesn't seem right. Still trying to figure out if this is something that I will come to like with familiarity, or if I ought to just accept the fact that sometimes certain blades and certain blade-wielders just don't fit.

What is interesting is my 18" Siru, 18" Gelbu, and 15" BAS all weigh 20-oz so I have the luxury of being able to compare at least three Khuks of the same weight. My kid's BAS weighs 21-oz and the 18" Chitlangi weighs 18-oz.

Don

Hey Don, do you do Microsoft Tech support? A friend of mine that lives down the street (we live in Provo UT) from me does MS Tech Support and is getting tons of overtime. I wonder if you two might work at the same place.

Cool reviews by the way.:)
 
Nah. I'm an information security specialist with a major government agency. Despite our best efforts agency wide, this Blaster worm and its nearly dozen or so variants has kicked the living snot out of us.

The problem with a network is that it is truly only as strong as its weakest component, and sadly enough, in order to do business, we do have to leave ourselves open in some areas.

It only takes one............

Wish I had more time to do better reviews. These Khuks deserve them. I'm hoping that we can get this virus situation under control so I can play a bit this weekend. I've got some stuff around and about that needs some serious cuttin', choppin' and pryin'.

By the way, this 18" Sirupati is starting to grow on me. I did finally figure out why I didn't care much for it at first, and this might not be something I can fix.

The problem is, arthritis runs in my family. I'm 47 now, but noticed over the last couple years that my joints seem to be waging a minor guerilla war against me. Especially my fingers, wrist and elbow joints.

When a blade gets a certain amount of weight out so many inches from the top of my hand, I start feeling pain in my right wrist when I perform certain moves, particularly moves involving rotation of my wrist during changes of direction. This particular blade, the 18" Sirupati, has just enough weight, just far enough out, that when I change direction from say, a descending vertical stroke to a horizontal one moving to the inside, I get a fair amount of wrist pain.

This is a new ache. Didn't have this a week ago near as I can tell. It's hell getting old -- but it sure beats the alternative (grin).

I'm going to go back on a regimen of Glucosamine & Condroitin, and Aleve (an anti-inflammatory) and see if that can convince my wrist that it's only 37 instead of 47.

Otherwise I might need to consider getting a new home for this terrific piece. But it's so darned pretty and the coloration of the wood and the crispness of the woodwork are outstanding. That coupled with the brass fittings make this piece look very exotic.

Just looking it at gives me a quick rush of excitement, the kind of thrill one gets at the thought of visiting far off lands and going on adventures.

I generally do not subscribe to the notion of keeping weapons or tools merely because they are asthetically beautiful. Normally, if the tool or weapon does not fit me, I ensure it goes to a good home.

But I've got one handgun and one Katana that are exceptions to that rule. And I think I am about to add this 18" Sirupati to this exclusive group. By the way, don't know if the Kami who made my 18-inchers also made the scabbards, but whoever did, did an amazing job.

These scabbards have a very distinctive ridge running parallel to the blade, versus the more common rounded convex shape. This ridged design is very eye-catching. Quite smart looking indeed.

Don
 
Originally posted by Don Nelson
Otherwise I might need to consider getting a new home for this terrific piece. But it's so darned pretty and the coloration of the wood and the crispness of the woodwork are outstanding.
Usually the wood has a not-obvious but dulling layer of Red rouge.
Remove the rouge, then finish the wood & you'll see a whole new depth of beauty.

Blades that don't quite fit make good gifts to keep in the back of the sock drawer.
 
Hey ya, Dean;

Well, I took some Aleve and some Glucosamine/Condroitin complex and my wrist pain seems to have subsided a lot.

The net result of which allowed me to work out a bit with the 18" Sirupati. I had to go easy because my wrist threatened to hurt me at times. But when the session was done the 18" Sirupati had made the grade - it's staying.

Don't know about the rouge on the handle, but I do like the deep rich brown with nice black figure that it currently has. I'll try to snap some pictures this weekend. If over time the wood needs some stripping, then I can look forward to a new personality on it when I'm done, and that sounds pretty neat.

Don
 
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